[HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych

Lightroom is photo management software.
Photoshop is photo editing software.

The photo editing capabilities of Lightroom is adequate.
It's about sorting your images.


Mark William Rabiner



> From: Richard Schiff <leicaman@xxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:32:26 -0700
> To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
> 
> 
> I don't see LightRoom 2 as being inferior to PS CS4 as far as the quality of
> adjsutments available in LR2.  LR is just much more focused on the
> photographer than on the graphic artist.  From what I have heard many are now
> doing a lot of work in LR and only going into PS for the really heavy lifting.
> LR has Curves and targeted adjustments brushes... even auto masking.. Just no
> layers. 
> 
>  
> 
> NOTHING beats CS4... but it's a HUGE program with much of its power doing
> things most photogs oft times don't need.
>  
>> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:12:22 -0400
>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>> From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> I've been using Photoshop since before 1990:
>> 
>> "Photoshop version 1.0 was released by Adobe Systems in 1990. It was
>> developed by the brothers Thomas Knoll and John Knoll (a motion picture
>> visual effects specialist, best known for his work as Visual Effects
>> Supervisor on the Star Wars prequels).
>> The program was intended as a tool for manipulating images that were
>> digitized by a scanner, a rare and expensive device in those days."
>> http://www.photoshopping.co.uk/history-of-adobe-photoshop.html
>> 
>> You make a tiff file from a scanner you've lost all that information just
>> like if you shot a tiff with your camera.
>> 
>> I'm much more comfortable on how Photoshop works than any quirky scanner
>> software most of which are as involving and mysterious as alchemy.
>> That's a big advantages of raw.
>> Like in when I make image captures with my DSLR Id never dream of not
>> shooting raw. When I found out I could do that now in my scanning I sure
>> went for it and it worked out as I thought it would
>> 
>> Lightroom is ok maybe if you are a news photographer going through hundreds
>> of captures a day and having to meet deadlines going through them and they
>> are then printed on 80 line newsprint.
>> I go though hundreds a week. I stick with Photoshop.
>> My advice to people is that any software which takes away from your time at
>> Photoshop is a red herring.
>> 
>> Think of your time doing Photoshop as air time to keep your pilots license.
>> You need miles. You got to keep your hands on.
>> 
>> Adobe is big on duplicitous software they always need to make more money.
>> I remember they were pushing both Pagemaker and InDesign on you. Still are
>> maybe.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Stefano Kovacs <stefanok@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:26:53 +0000
>>> To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> Could you please elaborate on the benefits of scanning to a raw format
>>> as opposed to 16 (B&W) or 48 (colour) bit tiff?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Stefano
>>> 
>>> On 17 Mar 2009, at 04:39, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I always scan to RAW.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> RAW RAW RAW!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:06:03 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes. I didn't know Silverfast did this as I've never tried it. I
>>>>> primarily
>>>>> shoot Velvia...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>>> http://www.raflexions.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Richard Schiff <leicaman@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:28:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you scan to RAW? I have both ViewScan Pro and Silverfast AI. I
>>>>> also have
>>>>> the Silverfast HDR program which allows scanning to RAW.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:49:38 -0700
>>>>> From: rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Franc,
>>>>> Agree on all points, especially Vuescan. You can scan to Raw!!!
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>>> http://www.raflexions.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Franc Flipsen <fujifan@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:34:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just finished selling my Hassy V system on ebay and netted enough
>>>>> to buy a
>>>>> used H3D39 kit, 28mm, 50-110mm and a 1.7x converter, I still need
>>>>> to add a few
>>>>> lenses but it's a great start. I'm finding most of the stuff is
>>>>> going to China
>>>>> & Japan but I think I did OK. Watching this stuff sell on ebay in
>>>>> the last 3
>>>>> months I see that sellers who limit there sales to USA are getting
>>>>> about
>>>>> 30-40% less than those willing to sell to the rest of the world.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Franc
>>>>> 
>>>>> p.s. Have a look at viewscan if you think Silverfast is good,
>>>>> viewscan blows
>>>>> it out of the water with features at a whole lot less.
>>>>> Viewscan web-site www.hamrick.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Richard Schiff
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am about to start scanning my Hassi stuff using a 9000 and the
>>>>> glass holder.
>>>>> I am using Silverfast AI software. By the way... GREAT work. Love
>>>>> it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will have to hold on to my hassi stuff untill it goes up enough
>>>>> to buy me a
>>>>> descent DSLR... I am debating between Nikon and Canon... either a
>>>>> D700 or a
>>>>> 5D. Everyone is so broke right now nothing is selling for much.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:48 -0700
>>>>> From: rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>>> Scanned with a Nikon Coolscan 8000ED.
>>>>> SL66 system is cheaper, more flexible (tilt/shift and bellows built
>>>>> in,
>>>>> 120/220 on the same back, can reverse lenses), same glass, and
>>>>> lighter (no
>>>>> leaf shutters). I used to carry a Flexbody, extension tubes, and 2
>>>>> backs plus
>>>>> 3 or 4 lenses in a large pack. This kit will fit in a mini-trekker.
>>>>> When I
>>>>> sold my hassy, I was able to buy a pretty high end digital SLR
>>>>> system AND this
>>>>> system. Worked out well for me...
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>>> http://www.raflexions.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Richard Schiff <leicaman@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:11:20 AM
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: IMG: Triptych
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What did you use to scan those?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why SL66 and not Hassi given the bargins out there right now?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:47:43 -0700
>>>>> From: rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] IMG: Triptych
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Having spent the last few weeks migrating from PC to Mac, I was
>>>>> reviewing some
>>>>> old scans. Found this series which I plan to print as 1 print (off
>>>>> a roll).
>>>>> http://raflexions.com/Triptych/content/Triptych_large.html
>>>>> I miss my hassy...
>>>>> Starting to build a new 6x6 kit to solve this remorse :-)
>>>>> SL66
>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>>> http://www.raflexions.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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