[HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]

Evan,

Within the past year or so I bought my first DSLR after owning a couple of 
digital P&S systems.  What I have found is that the digital cameras have a 
cleanness, almost sterile, feel to them.  I applaud the porfessionals that use 
them on a daily basis and wish them well in their endeavors.  They are very 
much in line with the reasoning for the original 35mm format...ease of use, 
compact, lightweight and multiple frames per load of film...most unlike the 4x5 
Speed Graphic "Press" cameras that came before them.  But the image quality and 
feel of a film image is quite different to the fine art photographer (or wanna 
bees).

My first experience with a serious hobbyist that had just bought a DSLR was, 
and I quote, "Oh, I have 2 of those film cameras here in my bag.  But within 
the last 2 weeks I have shot over 2000 images with my new DLSR."  My first 
thought was "Did you get a photograph?"  The 35mm film camera and the use of 
roll film afforded the photo-journalist the ability to shoot rapidly in order 
to capture the moment.  Larger format cameras are slower.  And as with the 
smaller format cameras there is as much thought is put into the technical 
aspects but I believe even more thought is put into the lighting and 
composition when using larger, hence film, cameras.

Patrick St.Cin
STC Enterprises, Inc.
www.imagesbypatrick.com
Tel (505)239-3026
Fax (505)771-8388 




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From: Evan J Dong <ejdong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:00:30 PM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]

Patrick,

I had access to my choice of scanners (drum and Kodak/Creo Hi-end flatbed 
scanners), so I never invested in a digital camera till about 4 years. I bought 
a Canon P&S for my wife and we both used it.
Prior to that, I used strictly film based 35mm and MF cameras. Because I had 
access to these scanners and digital proofers (Fuji PictroProof, Kodak 
Approval, Canon Large format and Epson 3880)
I tend to scan just the photos that I wanted. Yes the files were big and I 
enjoyed doing minimum amount of color correction. If the exposure for the shot 
was perfect, it would not required too much post retouching.

I work in the same similar workflow as you. I have in my basement my uncle's 
darkroom setup of an Omega D2V and a Beseler 23 XLCIII with trays, drums, and 
agitator. I was always too busy to set up my darkroom. I am somewhat glad that 
i didn't. I bought into a used Kodak/Creo Eversmart scanner that I plan to use 
in conjunction with my Canon FS4000US scanner. As for final proofer, I will 
send them .

Evan




Patrick St.Cin wrote:
> I have been shooting film over the years and find after the scanning process 
> that the work flow is similar to the digital only work flow.  The only 
> exception is the dusting of the image with either the clone or band-aid 
> tool.  Slight color correction is performed and then layering and adjustments 
> to the individual layers is performed.  The entire file is then flattened and 
> sized at a resolution of 400dpi...this is down from the 4000ppi scan on my 
> Nikon 8000.
>  The longest single part of the work flow with respect to time is the 
>scan...approx 30-45 minutes.  The files are huge, in the realm of 400+mb, so 
>the more memory the better.
>  Patrick St.Cin
> STC Enterprises, Inc.
> www.imagesbypatrick.com
> Tel (505)239-3026
> Fax (505)771-8388
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Evan J Dong <ejdong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:35:08 AM
> *Subject:* [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
> 
> I guess that my question would be a stupid one of nature. Beside the fact of 
> the FF digital SLR from Canon, Nikon, and Sony (in order of best to 
> passable), what is the exactly benefits of going this route?
> Especially taken into consideration of the higher level of Post-Production 
> work required for all digital files. There appears to be a distinct 
> methodology within the digital workflow to make their digital files as close 
> as possible in looking like Film Files having the greater 3-D look and 
> dynamic range.
> 
> Granted that both system, Film based and digital ready files are not perfect, 
> there appears to be a many software and program out there to help the digital 
> files achieve that Film Look. Am I wrong here?
> 
> For those individual still using  film based system and having their images 
> scanned, what is your digital workflow here?
> 
> For those in the digital SLR system, what is your digital workflow 
> Post-Production and Why the need for it?
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Adler wrote:
>> Unfortunately not everyone has the where-with-all to do this. I went to FF 
>> DSLR and had to sell all my Hassy gear to do it. I still have deep pangs of 
>> remorse, but I've managed to convince myself (almost) that it was a good 
>> move. I am somewhat consoled with having gotten a 4x5 kit, so I can still 
>> shoot film.
>> Sometimes, though, that makes me miss my Hassy's more. I may buy a small 
>> Rollei outfit yet...
>> Ambivalent in California,
>> Bob
>>  Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.raflexions.com
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2009 12:05:50 AM
>> *Subject:* [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
>> 
>> As I get into full frame digital there are two reasons whey I've not sold
>> one bit of my Hassy system.
>> 1. No one would give me anything worthwhile for it money wise.
>> 2. It's mine. I don't like other people shooting with my cameras.
>> 3. And any day now some rogue company will come out with a prosumer priced
>> medium format back which will jack up the value and usability of the system
>> again to where it was before the crash. I'll get one of those backs and
>> start in again. My newish 100 planar will be the front runner of glass I'm
>> likely to use.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > From: Tom Just Olsen <tjols@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjols@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> > Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" 
>> > <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:48:14 +0100 (MET)
>> > To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > Subject: [HUG ]  Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
>> >
>> > Jim,
>> >
>> > I have had the 1Ds III for a year now, - but I still have all my Hasselblad
>> > gear.  From my old 500C/M bought in the early 70' to my 10 years old 203FE,
>> > SWC and so on.  I have not the heart to sell it.  It is like shooting your 
>> > own
>> > hunting dog.
>> >
>> > But mostly I use my 1Ds III which works fine.  I also have this M8 - which 
>> > is
>> > a story for itself.
>> >
>> > Tom of Oslo >
>> >> From: Jim Brick [jim@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxx>]
>> >> Sent: 2009-03-02 21:12:32 CET
>> >> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Subject: [HUG ] Re: SV: Re: <FS> Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek
>> >> [2/27/09]
>> >>
>> >> No, I just sold my electronic Hasselblad stuff, and my digistuff is a
>> >> 1Ds Mark III.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Tom Just Olsen wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Jim,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am just curious; have you sold all your Hasselblad gear?  Further;
>> >>> what digital SLR are you using?  The 5D or the 1Ds III?
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom of Oslo
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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