[HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]

Mark,
I think it was Jim Williams who wrote that question, not Evan...
Bob
 Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com 




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From: Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 1:06:54 PM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]

I find the idea that the stack of 5x7's I carry around with me in my camera
bag not photographs quite comical. Some are from negs some are from digital
cameras its hard for me sometimes to remember.
The ideas that all the photographers now are out there NOT doing
photography....
Quite comical.
What are they doing?
Some cheap cop out I guess which does not fit the camera swappers criteria
of "real photography".
Lets see your pictures Evan!. I'm sure the integrity of which will send me
and all my professional photographer friends back under the rocks from which
we came.


Mark William Rabiner



> From: <jmswllms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:34:51 -0800
> To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
> 
> Just curious, do you think that shooting digital should be considered
> photography since the the image is stored digitally? Are the pictures
> photographs or some other term since they are printed? Don't mean to ruffle
> feathers just curious, it has me confused. I'm old school lol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 3/3/09 12:01 PM
> Subject: [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
> 
> One benefit if shooting FF digital or cropped DSLR digital even is it makes
> it possible to be a commercial photographer or a photojournalist.  Something
> other than a fine art photographer.
> It puts you into the ball game.
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Evan J Dong <ejdong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:35:08 -0500
>> To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
>> 
>> I guess that my question would be a stupid one of nature. Beside the
>> fact of the FF digital SLR from Canon, Nikon, and Sony (in order of best
>> to passable), what is the exactly benefits of going this route?
>> Especially taken into consideration of the higher level of
>> Post-Production work required for all digital files. There appears to be
>> a distinct methodology within the digital workflow to make their digital
>> files as close as possible in looking like Film Files having the greater
>> 3-D look and dynamic range.
>> 
>> Granted that both system, Film based and digital ready files are not
>> perfect, there appears to be a many software and program out there to
>> help the digital files achieve that Film Look. Am I wrong here?
>> 
>> For those individual still using  film based system and having their
>> images scanned, what is your digital workflow here?
>> 
>> For those in the digital SLR system, what is your digital workflow
>> Post-Production and Why the need for it?
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Adler wrote:
>>> Unfortunately not everyone has the where-with-all to do this. I went
>>> to FF DSLR and had to sell all my Hassy gear to do it. I still have
>>> deep pangs of remorse, but I've managed to convince myself (almost)
>>> that it was a good move. I am somewhat consoled with having gotten
>>> a 4x5 kit, so I can still shoot film.
>>> Sometimes, though, that makes me miss my Hassy's more. I may buy a
>>> small Rollei outfit yet...
>>> Ambivalent in California,
>>> Bob
>>>  
>>> Bob Adler
>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>> http://www.raflexions.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *To:* "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2009 12:05:50 AM
>>> *Subject:* [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
>>> 
>>> As I get into full frame digital there are two reasons whey I've not sold
>>> one bit of my Hassy system.
>>> 1. No one would give me anything worthwhile for it money wise.
>>> 2. It's mine. I don't like other people shooting with my cameras.
>>> 3. And any day now some rogue company will come out with a prosumer priced
>>> medium format back which will jack up the value and usability of the
>>> system
>>> again to where it was before the crash. I'll get one of those backs and
>>> start in again. My newish 100 planar will be the front runner of glass I'm
>>> likely to use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Tom Just Olsen <tjols@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjols@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> Reply-To: "hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:48:14 +0100 (MET)
>>>> To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> Subject: [HUG ]  Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
>>>> 
>>>> Jim,
>>>> 
>>>> I have had the 1Ds III for a year now, - but I still have all my
>>> Hasselblad
>>>> gear.  From my old 500C/M bought in the early 70' to my 10 years old
>>> 203FE,
>>>> SWC and so on.  I have not the heart to sell it.  It is like
>>> shooting your own
>>>> hunting dog.
>>>> 
>>>> But mostly I use my 1Ds III which works fine.  I also have this M8 -
>>> which is
>>>> a story for itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom of Oslo 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jim Brick [jim@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>> Sent: 2009-03-02 21:12:32 CET
>>>>> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [HUG ] Re: SV: Re: <FS> Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek
>>>>> [2/27/09]
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, I just sold my electronic Hasselblad stuff, and my digistuff is a
>>>>> 1Ds Mark III.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Tom Just Olsen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am just curious; have you sold all your Hasselblad gear?  Further;
>>>>>> what digital SLR are you using?  The 5D or the 1Ds III?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tom of Oslo
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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