[HUG ] Re: Brooks... was Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
- From: Jim Brick <jim@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:34:17 -0800
No no no... there are now five other campi (plural of campus). Two in
Santa Barbara and three in Ventura. When I went thru Brooks, 1959-61,
there was only the Montecito campus, a gorgeous campus but even though
covering seven acres, would only handle a few hundred students. Now
there are thousands of students and this campus costs too much for the
student load that it can handle. It was an estate, a home for the Gray
family (A Henry Ford investor in 1902). So as a home (the Brooks
family lived there all the while that it was the original school) it
was not laid out in the best fashion for a school. It was great when I
went there, very small classes, lots of studios, lots of darkroom
space, lots of camaraderie. The current campi are old school
buildings, office buildings, and warehouses. Here's a few snaps of the
Montecito campus:
http://www.visualimpressions.com/Brooks%20Institute%20book%20mini%20sneak%20peek/
Jim
On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Patrick St.Cin wrote:
Jim,
Is the campus being moved to another location? I would hate to see
the Institute close. Even though I attended RIT, it would feel like
the art of photography would be dieing if they were to close.
Brooks has produced some of the best photographers around and it
would be a shame if they were to go away. Would love to see your
book when it is completed.
Patrick St.Cin
STC Enterprises, Inc.
www.imagesbypatrick.com
Tel (505)239-3026
Fax (505)771-8388
From: Jim Brick <jim@xxxxxxxxx>
To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 2:40:53 PM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: Hasselblad, Leica, Rollei, Microtek [2/27/09]
On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Evan J Dong wrote:
I guess that my question would be a stupid one of nature. Beside
the fact of the FF digital SLR from Canon, Nikon, and Sony (in
order of best to passable), what is the exactly benefits of going
this route?
Especially taken into consideration of the higher level of Post-
Production work required for all digital files. There appears to be
a distinct methodology within the digital workflow to make their
digital files as close as possible in looking like Film Files
having the greater 3-D look and dynamic range.
To me, film is film, digital is digital, and I never try to make
either look like the other. What I try to do, is make the best
looking photograph that I possibly can, regardless of the medium. I
shoot both film & digital and each has its pluses and minuses.
Granted that both system, Film based and digital ready files are
not perfect, there appears to be a many software and program out
there to help the digital files achieve that Film Look. Am I wrong
here?
If you are trying to morph one system into the other, you are off
track!
For those individual still using film based system and having
their images scanned, what is your digital workflow here?
The only reason for scanning film, is to print (inksplatter or
LightJet), to publish in a book or on a web site, or to view via an
LCD projector. And perhaps other reasons that are not darkroom
related. The real reason for shooting film, IMHO, is to make LARGE
prints. My standard print size is 20x24. My entry way wall contains
a 48x60, three 30x40's, and a 40x40. All from film. The 48x60 &
40x40 are scanned and printed on a LightJet, the 30x40's are
darkroom optical prints.
For those in the digital SLR system, what is your digital workflow
Post-Production and Why the need for it?
Evan
I love my MF and LF film cameras and would love to do ALL of my work
using these cameras, but this is no longer the most expeditious/
easiest/best way.
For instance, last May I was informed (as a Brooks Institute of
Photography Alumnus) that the school's founding campus was going to
be sold. This was like a stab through the heart, so my wife and I
attended the Wake on June 18th. At that time I decided to photograph
the school from one end to the other - it is a beautiful Montecito
estate, built in 1920, purchased by Ernie Brooks Sr. in 1952 - and
produce a book.
The Brooks administration gave me the keys to the campus so that I
could get into everything. So, for photographing the school, every
nook and cranny plus the gorgeous grounds, to me, digital made the
best sense. I live 300 miles from Brooks and could not just pop-in
for re-do's. With digital, I could see what I had just shot at the
time of shooting and I could load them on my computer that evening
for reviewing.
I made four trips to Brook, June, July, August, and November, and
from 150 photographic subjects, have roughly 75 suitable for the book.
Here's the thing about digital in situations like this - the
building, being a huge estate with rambling hallways, doorways, etc,
has huge light ratios in almost every photograph. Too much (way too
much) for film, but with digital HDR processing, it makes the huge
ratio manageable. You can take multiple film photographs, scan them,
then attempt to do HDR processing but it is virtually impossible to
scan three or four images and then get them properly aligned for HDR
processing. Basically, it's a pain and doesn't always work. And
scanning is a lengthy process. And artificial lighting was not
feasible as some of the expanses were vast plus windows and doorways
that opened to the outside had daylight streaming in to a dark
interior.
My workflow is simple.
1. Copy the CF/SD cards onto my 'archive' drive.
2. Clone the archive drive to a second archive drive.
3. Import the images into Lightroom, copying the images from the
archive drive on to my Lightroom drive.
4. Look through the images, discarding the junk.
5. If an image you want to print/publish/project requires HDR
processing, select the under/normal/over exposed images and export
them to your HDR program.
6. For any image that you want to print/publish/project, make a
'Virtual Copy'.
7. Open the copy in 'Darkroom'.
8. Do the appropriate darkroom work (temp, exposure, dodge, burn,
etc...).
9. Label (stars & flags) appropriately so that it can be quickly
displayed in a group. This group can be made into a collection.
10. Export or print the image with appropriate sizing/ppi attributes
for its intended use.
Bottom line for me, film is for printing large prints in a darkroom,
digital is for projects, record photos, family snaps, stuff other
than large display prints. You choose the method to meet the
requirement. You don't try to morph one system into the other.
Also, being 70, I spent decades using 35mm/MF/LF cameras and film. I
did not buy into digital until FF 35mm became available. My head
does not compute X-factors. It is a foreign concept to me! My first
digital camera was a 5D. A spectacular camera! When the 1Ds III came
out, it had some features that I really needed (primarily, magnified
live view so I could easily focus my Tilt-Shift lenses when using
Scheimpflug - this is a spectacular option!), and there's other
nifty goodies on the 1Ds III that make life easier as well. So I
sold the 5D and went up to the 1Ds III.
:-)
Jim
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