[HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

Well, unless you have an inside source, there is no official release date
for the S2 or R10.  Dates given have come from various rumors and estimates,
as I stated.  What we do know is that you can not buy one right now and
there are no official dates.

 

Everything you say is true, however good business men rarely keep asserts
that bleed money over the long run.  Tax benefits or not.  His threshold of
financial pain is not yet defined.

 

When out there, the R10 will stop ( what I consider to be ) the nonsense of
using R glass on Canon digital bodies with an adapter.   100% dead stop.

 

Last comment is not confirmed... the R10 will have AF with MF lenses.  What
has been said: There will be AF, and the body will accept MF ( older )
lenses. 

 

Frank Filippone

red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From: hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of flexbody
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:51 PM
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Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

 

From the horses mouth the R10 will be available much sooner.

Mr Kaufmann owner of Leica is no fool who invests his money 

now to withdraw his investment in 1-2 years. 

Besides that current losses can be used as a ground for tax 

compensation.

I am sure a succesful business man of this magnitude does not

need any help from me.

He has a long breath that will allow him to accept a return of 

investment much longer than any bank financing would permit.

 

One way to change the present results that are written in red 

is to diversify the range of products.

The S2 is a good way to start with that.

The R10 will convince users of older lenses not to buy Canon, 

Nikon and use these lenses with adapters but go for the R10.

The R10 will offer AF with current MF lenses. 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Frank Filippone <mailto:red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:52 AM

Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

 

Small correction. they are owned by a single individual that is funding
their ( negative financial) operations.  If he pulls out of the funding,
they will go under quickly.  They are losing money like crazy.

 

Certainly the S2 is interesting ( and pretty spectacular), but priced for
someone else, not me.  In fact not for most folk I know.  Same for the H
series...

 

Yes, Hasselblad should be very concerned.   If this thing actually can
perform ( as opposed to problem driven cameras) , it will be a real
competitor for the Hasselblad V Series with digital backs and the H series.
And as you say, Leica is no slouch in designing optics.

 

The R10 is what will put money into their hands.  It will support an
existing lens lineup, people that are putting their Leica R lenses on Canon
bodies with an adapter.  It will sell like hotcakes.

 

But they must last long enough to actually bring these products to market...
and fast enough to not get caught up in more competition...

 

Current estimates and rumors are that the S2 will be production available in
a year, and the R10 in 2 years.

 

Frank Filippone

red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

 

Their financial position allows them to bring out new models

as if R&D are available at 90% discount not to mention the cost 

to finance production. 

Besides the S2 they are working also on the R10.

That camera will be released shortly after the S2.

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