[HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

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----- Original Message ----- From: <jmswllms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:31 AM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs
I have read the List for the past few days and I'm in awe of some of you. You must have awesome carreers in photoraphy, you are living my dreams. I solute you 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Franc Flipsen" <fujifan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 9/29/08 9:53 PM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs
The hasselblad CF39 and the Phase P65+ both have a IR/AR (infra Red/Anti Reflective)filter that is as good as film and both are available for the V system. The V system is far from dead. I use it commercially with a 22MP back and love it. It's not as fast as my Nikon D3 or a friends Canon 1Ds MKIII but for image quality it blows them away. My clients prefer MF digital. Now I just need a flexbody. 

Franc
----- Original Message ----- From: Austin Franklin 
 To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:38 PM
 Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs


 Hi Flex,
I'm not sure I agree with that. IF the digital back has a (significantly) reduced sized sensor, possibly. But I'd question that a full frame sensor would not have significant vignetting on the corners. 

 Regards,

 Austin

   -----Original Message-----
From: hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of flexbody 
   Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:38 PM
   To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs


   The difference between theory and practice.
   Any SWC will produce excellent results with a digital back.
   Even the first camera in that series,the SWA, will go well
   with a digital back.
----- Original Message ----- From: Karl Wolz 
     To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:16 PM
     Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs
I'm not an engineer, but I would venture a guess that with the Biogon being as close as it is to the film plane, you'd run into real problems using one for digital capture. Sensors tend to be real finicky about the angle of light (a distinct advantage to film). 



     Karl Wolz




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From: hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of flexbody 
     Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:07 PM
     To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs
It is not the price of the sensor that is important for the price of a digital back. 

     Sensors are only a fraction of the total cost of a digital back.
I guess a full size sensor would not cost more than 600USD of ordered in quantities. 

     Other problems will make a full size back for MF expensive.

     Power needed to feed the electronics will go up considerably.

     That makes large capacity batteries necessary.

     Just one ot the problems that are often overlooked.
----- Original Message ----- 
       From: Richard Schiff

       To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

       Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:13 PM

       Subject: [HUG ] Biogons and digital backs
Digital or not... the SWC's 38mm Biogon can probably still beat the pants off any wide angle lens ever made.
I think the there would be a market for a tech start-up to make a Hasselblad specific Digital back to work with and 500/swc series body. I know the chips are out there. 5 years ago I held in my hand a CMOS detector that measure 5" square. It was comprised of four 2.5" CMOS detector plates joined together. It was a high-gane photographic detector for the Keck telescope in Hawaii. If that plate was operation 5 years ago then the technology is WAY beyond that now. producing a 2-1/4 X 2-1/4 full frame detector that could sell for less than $1,000 should be well within reason today. If Hasselblad or leaf won't do it then someone should
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