[HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Franc Flipsen" <fujifan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 9/29/08 9:53 PM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

The hasselblad CF39 and the Phase P65+ both have a IR/AR (infra Red/Anti 
Reflective)filter that is as good as film and both are available for the V 
system.  The V system is far from dead.  I use it commercially with a 22MP back 
and love it.  It's not as fast as my Nikon D3 or a friends Canon 1Ds MKIII but 
for image quality it blows them away.  My clients prefer MF digital.  Now I 
just need a flexbody.

Franc


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Austin Franklin 
  To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:38 PM
  Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs


  Hi Flex,

  I'm not sure I agree with that.  IF the digital back has a (significantly) 
reduced sized sensor, possibly.  But I'd question that a full frame sensor 
would not have significant vignetting on the corners.

  Regards,

  Austin

    -----Original Message-----
    From: hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of flexbody
    Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:38 PM
    To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs


    The difference between theory and practice.
    Any SWC will produce excellent results with a digital back.
    Even the first camera in that series,the SWA, will go well 
    with a digital back.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Karl Wolz 
      To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:16 PM
      Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs


      I'm not an engineer, but I would venture a guess that with the Biogon 
being as close as it is to the film plane, you'd run into real problems using 
one for digital capture.  Sensors tend to be real finicky about the angle of 
light (a distinct advantage to film).

       

      Karl Wolz

       


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      From: hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:hasselblad-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of flexbody
      Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:07 PM
      To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [HUG ] Re: Biogons and digital backs

       

      It is not the price of the sensor that is important for the price of a 
digital back.

      Sensors are only a fraction of the total cost of a digital back.

      I guess a full size sensor would not cost more than 600USD of ordered in 
quantities.

      Other problems will make a full size back for MF expensive.

      Power needed to feed the electronics will go up considerably. 

      That makes large capacity batteries necessary. 

      Just one ot the problems that are often overlooked. 

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Richard Schiff 

        To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:13 PM

        Subject: [HUG ] Biogons and digital backs

         

        Digital or not... the SWC's 38mm Biogon can probably still beat the 
pants off any wide angle lens ever made. 
         
         I think the there would be a market for a tech start-up to make a 
Hasselblad specific Digital back to work with and 500/swc series body.  I know 
the chips are out there.  5 years ago I held in my hand a CMOS detector that 
measure 5" square.  It was comprised of four  2.5"  CMOS detector plates joined 
together.  It was a high-gane photographic detector  for the Keck telescope in 
Hawaii.  If that plate  was operation 5 years ago then the technology is WAY 
beyond that now.  producing a 2-1/4 X 2-1/4 full frame detector that could sell 
for less than $1,000 should be well within reason today.  If Hasselblad or leaf 
won't do it then someone should






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