[hashcash] Re: status of hashcash version 1?
- From: "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: hashcash@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:23:23 -0400
John Honan wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
I've been having a think about hardware costs in the whole spammer
profitability model. Surely hardware costs must be included in the
calculations. If the spammer wants to double the number of emails he can
stamp and send per day, he just doubles the number of machines he has.
So, how profitable would a spammer be sitting in a room with say, 20
high end machines doing minting? - But he will have to invest money in
these machines, which is why I think hardware spend should be included
in profitability calcs - Unless I'm misunderstanding this.
stamps are a rate limiting mechanism. Therefore, for every machine a
spammer purchases, he increases his rate of production by however many
stamps that given machine can generate. The cost of actual hardware is
amortized over its lifetime. therefore, the hardware based cost of
stamps generated over time becomes increasingly cheap without even
taking into account Moore's Law. At the end of the year, the cost per
stamp is vanishingly small.
A continuing cost is the cost of system administration. Now the chances
of a spammer hiring a fully paid and compensated European/American
employee is also vanishingly small therefore the cost of ongoing
operation is, I suspect, minimal but not insignificant.
but if you look at the cost to the spammer simply by decreasing volume
of messages, you'll see that the rate limiting aspect of stamps to be
the dominant economic effect in hitting spammers as well as commercial
advertisers.
---eric
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I've been having a think about hardware costs in the whole spammer profitability model. Surely hardware costs must be included in the calculations. If the spammer wants to double the number of emails he can stamp and send per day, he just doubles the number of machines he has. So, how profitable would a spammer be sitting in a room with say, 20 high end machines doing minting? - But he will have to invest money in these machines, which is why I think hardware spend should be included in profitability calcs - Unless I'm misunderstanding this.
- [hashcash] Re: status of hashcash version 1?
- From: "Hal Finney"
- [hashcash] Re: status of hashcash version 1?
- From: Eric S. Johansson
- [hashcash] Re: status of hashcash version 1?
- From: John Honan