[harbor] Re: [nbusers] Any Good Reason java doesnt have a browser install plugin?

Thanks John...

For others interested... its here
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ea/6u10/deploymentToolkit.jsp
Unfortunately the javascript genius has built the examples into the page... its not that easy to follow... but its there...
This is got to be one of the MOST IMPORTANT areas in Java... so Sun, make this page so that everyone and their whole family is able to make "Java download" from a web page... lots of simple examples. 
Yes I'm saying the examples suck ;)
First thing people are going to ask is about other versions as well... please talk about that, show examples.
BTW... heres another way... but its MS IE only.... will install Java 1.5 if not on machine 

<!--COPY THIS STUFF TO YOUR PAGE-->
<OBJECT codebase="http://java.sun.com/update/1.5.0/jinstall-1_5_0_11-windows-i586.cab"; classid="clsid:5852F5ED-8BF4-11D4-A245-0080C6F74284" height=25 width=27 id="Test" border="0"> <param name="back" value="false"><!-- Alternate non IE type HTML browsers which cannot instantiate the object --> <a href="http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.html";> Download Java Runtime</a> 
</OBJECT>
Another question... Java needs admin rights to install, right?... is this addressed anywhere? An install that does what it can without admin rights is also needed... even if that cant do applets.
Whoever is working on this area... you are the most important person at Sun... even if the EJB team doesnt think so ;) 
You biting the Silver Bullet ;)
Your code name is Flexor ;)
Without you Java will do a US economy on us... vanish ;)

Thanks.... thank goodness they are thinking about this... about time ;)
----- Original Message ----- From: "John C. Turnbull" <ozemale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <nbusers@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [nbusers] Any Good Reason java doesnt have a browser install plugin? 



Johnny,
The latest Java plug-in (aka Plugin2) that comes with Java 6 Update 10 does 
have this feature.  Obviously it can't be implemented in Java if the user
doesn't yet have Java installed so it's all done in JavaScript in the Java
Deployment Kit. It allows you to specify exactly which version of Java your 
applet requires and then prompts the user to install it.
It's not perfect and some simple changes would make it a lot better but it's 
quite good and a huge improvement over earlier offerings.

Cheers,

-JCT


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