[openbeos] Re: openbeos Digest V7 #140
- From: Nicholas Blachford <nicholas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:04:02 +0100
Hi Charlie,
No, that's not what distro's are about. FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD were
forks where the source was changed for essentially philosophical
differences. I believe the splits were somewhat acrimonious at the
time but importantly compatbility of utilities was maintained.
Distro's are when someone is trying to make money, or not. Enter
Marketing. So RedHat and Novell vs. Debian and Slackware. Or more
recently Sun, IBM and Oracle vs. RedHat. NB. that some distro's have
deliberately introduced incompatibilities: didn't François point out
recently that you can't get root on one of them? :-/
In some cases the linux distros are also made for philosophical
reasons, Mandrake and later Ubuntu both had ease of use as a primary
goal. Gentoo for speed etc.
I mean, as a "disto consumer", I don't go looking for a Linux distro
because I want to throw money at someone or not - I go looking based
on the community around it, how well it works, what software it comes
with, and whether it will meet my needs. Slackware vs. Ubuntu for
example - night and day for many even if it's the same underlying
OS/kernel.
Well, yes because it's Un*x and this is effectively the argument of
the GNU: different kernels but the Borg's utilities. My point is that
you don't get any of these discussions with the *BSD's. It doesn't
matter which one you have as the configuration, location of the
libraries, etc. is all the same. A whole heap easier for all
concerned, if you ask me. The question is whether the lack of distro
hell is down to anything that the FreeBSD lot do or simply because
nobody thinks it'll fly. I've still not sussed why you don't see many
routers, etc. with customised FreeBSD cores (apart from Cisco's IOS).
I believe the reason is cost and possibly also support.
I was told some time ago by someone in the business that the FreeBSD
base took up more room and that meant more Flash ROM, which meant
more $$$ (ROMs use NOR flash which is a lot more expensive than the
NAND flash you find in most flash media cards).
Another possible reason is there is now a lot of support for embedded
Linux, there are specific embedded distros with special kernels etc.
I'm not sure if anything like this exists for FreeBSD.
--
Nicholas Blachford
www.ps3coderz.com
www.blachford.info
"Do not fear death, fear having not lived."
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No, that's not what distro's are about. FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD were forks where the source was changed for essentially philosophical differences. I believe the splits were somewhat acrimonious at the time but importantly compatbility of utilities was maintained. Distro's are when someone is trying to make money, or not. Enter Marketing. So RedHat and Novell vs. Debian and Slackware. Or more recently Sun, IBM and Oracle vs. RedHat. NB. that some distro's have deliberately introduced incompatibilities: didn't François point out recently that you can't get root on one of them? :-/
I mean, as a "disto consumer", I don't go looking for a Linux distro because I want to throw money at someone or not - I go looking based on the community around it, how well it works, what software it comes with, and whether it will meet my needs. Slackware vs. Ubuntu for example - night and day for many even if it's the same underlying OS/kernel.
Well, yes because it's Un*x and this is effectively the argument of the GNU: different kernels but the Borg's utilities. My point is that you don't get any of these discussions with the *BSD's. It doesn't matter which one you have as the configuration, location of the libraries, etc. is all the same. A whole heap easier for all concerned, if you ask me. The question is whether the lack of distro hell is down to anything that the FreeBSD lot do or simply because nobody thinks it'll fly. I've still not sussed why you don't see many routers, etc. with customised FreeBSD cores (apart from Cisco's IOS).
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