On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Ari Haviv <arielbhaviv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Jorge Mare <kokitomare@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> In light of the underwhelming response to topic of this message (lots >> of Haiku Inc. related off topic whinning, but little to nothing >> WC-related that could be meaningful or useful), and since my "behind >> the scenes" attempts in the last few weeks to try to somehow keep >> WalterCon alive had found no meaningful resonance, there is no point >> in pursuing this any further, at least not at this point in time. >> >> As a result, the plans that we had for holding WalterCon 2008 in >> Columbus in October are canceled (the contract with the hotel is >> already canceled). >> > > Jorge, I can certainly understand your frustration. I suggest that we > try to analyze 'what is going wrong' with WalterCon. > I think the basic problem was making the conference in Ohio under the > premise that it is the most fair because of its central location. > However, this also means that *everyone* has to travel and it is less > likely for any one person to make it. > To have a success, we need to find Haiku's center of gravity. When > Michael Phipps was project leader, the center of gravity was to the > east. Now that he is no longer project leader, not only is the global > center of gravity towards Europe but the American center of gravity > has now shifted to California. If the conference is in California, it > is more likely for more people to easily make it. This then forms a > 'core' that will make it more compelling for those not in California, > to travel to the conference. People will go if there is definitely > something to go to. > > And its not just Haiku fans. A California conference would attract > those who have been introduced to it at Scale and LinuxWorld. The > likelihood of a surprise from someone from Be would be greater. > Indeed, the center of gravity for the entire tech world is in > California. > > I also think it would be a good idea for any possible conference, > including the confirmed Begeistert, to be placed on youtube. I would > like to see youtube 'bombarded' with Haiku videos to coincide with the > alpha. For example, technical presentations as well as videos that > demo the OS just as it was presented at linuxworld. > > And for reference, this is the "official" BeOS demo video from Be Inc: > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756 > > I've talked with Jorge about this, and I still think losing WalterCon isn't that big of a deal in the overall picture. On the other hand I think that going to open source conferences is still a good idea to help spread the word about Haiku. So hopefully there will still be a Haiku presence at the Ohio Linux Fest. Are there still Haiku devs/users/fans in the midwest who are still going to make the trip? Maybe you can meet up and carpool... -scottmc