[openbeos] Re: Updating OSes bit by bit
- From: Plüss Roland <rptd@xxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:56:34 +0200
AFA source based patching - like I said - this is a distro related issue. I
don't personally have any plans to build a system that does source based
patching. Be didn't and I don't see that it is a huge win. That isn't to say
that SOMEONE can't. It just isn't me, nor will I assign it to someone.
did not intend to demand it anyways. just have been my two cents ;=)
AFA testing - I never said that testing is a complete replacement for patching
or that we all write perfect code. As Dijkstra once said, testing can't show
the absence of bugs.
OMFG... and how i know him... came across this guy at least once in my
studies ^_^
But did you ever notice that BeOS needed a lot fewer
patches than other operating systems?
don't kill me for this but... if the system has not much software,
there's not much to make faulty. i mean with this only that if you bloat
beos with all the software linux or even windows has there might be a
little bit different image. it would still be much less than the other
systems due to the coding schemata but still 'Size does matter' ^_^
Testing can reduce the number of patches.
So can betas. By the time the OS hits "real" end users, it should be of such
quality that you shouldn't need to install half a gig of patches to make it
work. Look at the patches that Linux (stable branch) has. Most of them are
tiny, obscure security holes that are issues only for servers. That is the
level of quality that I hope for. That functionality works and that if there
are issues, they have to be exploited explicitly and deliberately. That most of
the bugs that are found are cases where we can fix it in the next release in
good conscience.
yeah... somehow. i donno how you feel this but in my eyes linux still
has a lot of patching going on, but more under the hood where more LFS
oriented people (or distro maintainers) see it due to the daily handling
of sources. but still better than M$. had already a couple of cases
where i even had to mess a bit around in the kernel sources to do
something (not much stuff... some simple silly errors that only occur in
certain ./configure-ations) and there i've been hell glad i could dig
down into the sources myself to wrap things up for my personal need. but
i would never burden this on a user not knowing c++ coding out of the
box ^_^
Roland
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