2005/7/23, Helmar Rudolph <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Good point. GE (AFAICC) is nothing but a talk shop. Nothing is being > done that could/will be implemented into Haiku post R1. Lots of > stuff is being bandied around, yet nothing is being decided on and > moved up the ladder, eventually leading to execution (read: written > code) and implementation/integration. Wow, I'm sorry if people would rather concentrate on R1 *code* now than on *post*-R1 *code*, and instead chose to keep a repository of ideas on a mailing list open for public feedback. > So... by the time R1 is out, GE is exactly where it was the day the > list went live. Wow, I'm sorry if R2 won't be ready the week following the one when R1 gets released. >That surely isn't in the interest of Haiku, the > community or people like Simon who get frustrated with the albatross > around the neck called "Glass Elevator". Wow, I'm sorry if a list meant to be repository of ideas was kept open for public feedback for what people expected from *future* Haiku releases. > The constant referring to GE of new ideas or concepts that more > often than not don't seem to be overly complex/complicated isn't > only nauseating but counter-productive. Wow, I'm sorry if a list meant to be repository of ideas was kept open for public feedback for what people expected from **future** Haiku releases, and R1's goal was defined to be "cloning R5's features and STAY FOCUSED to that goal". What would you suggest instead? > But given the previous > responses to a request in change in attitude by those in command, I > politely suggest the closing of the GE list. It just doesn't serve a > purpose in its current incarnation, irrespective of the noble idea > behind it when it was launched - unless people like expending their > time on just talking about stuff without leading/going anywhere. It's not going anywhere. If for anything else, the ideas were archived for future digestion, refinements, and (hopefully) proper implementation when the appropriate time comes. As an added bonus, see, there was actual discussion going on there regarding a number of relevant topics, some fleshing out (refinements, as you see) has happened already based on those discussions, and because the list was open for the public, there are actually MANY new ideas REAL PEOPLE would like to see in their dream OS, ideas that can be turned real IN CASE they share the spirit of BeOS and pleases the developers as well. Sorry, it's a community here. You're always free to form a start-up company and build your own dream OS, which fits YOUR criteria, THERE. And you're free to take away as much code as you wish from this project as well. Now, sorry for being rude, but asking for the GE list to be closed because 2 guys don't really like it and decided to go vocal (you being the second one) was the most *disgusting* thing *I* had the displeasure of reading on the Haiku mailing lists, *ever*. -- "A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God" -Alan J. Perlis