[openbeos] Re: Suggestion (was Re: A bit of prep talk)

Point taken, Solaja :-).
Sorry for taking so long to reply, as I have been quite busy today.
Anyway, although I am still sticking to my opinion that it would be
better to change the name now whilst we are still in the planning phase, I
guess I will drop the idea for now, since the idea doesn't seem to be very
popular.
Btw, is there anyway I can help out in this project? I have an intermediate
knowledge of C/C++, although not in an industrial environment (never used
those
languages at work before.... using some other language). I am also familiar
with
OOP and design patterns. Will only be free during weekends though.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zenja Solaja [SMTP:solaja@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:32 AM
> To:   openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [openbeos] Re: Suggestion (was Re: A bit of prep talk)
> 
> 
> Valid points, but I'd rather we cross that bridge when we get to it.  If
> BeInc tells us "sorry people, you've got to change your name" then we'll
> host a debate on a new name (for our new OS ;-).  Until then, I suggest we
> stay with OpenBeOS because there is no doubt in peoples mind what it
> actually is.  I personally dont believe that BeInc will have any
> objectioins
> to us leeching their name since they may still be emotionally attached to
> their baby, and want to see it succeed one way or the other.  I wouldn't
> be
> suprised if we receive a few pointers from Be management (and open the
> floodgates for ex Be veterens).  Anyone in Menlo Park lurking?
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Teh Kelvin-CKT044 [SMTP:Kelvin.Teh@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent:       Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:16 PM
> > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:    [openbeos] Re: Suggestion (was Re: A bit of prep talk)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    Hmm...... this reminds me of a previous post where there was a
> concern
> > 
> > regarding the use of the words "BeOS" in the proposed new open-source OS
> > 
> > being developed here. Since it seems to have been more or less settled
> > that
> > 
> > a huge portion of the kernel is going to be based on the NewOS kernel,
> it
> > 
> > occured to me that it might be a good idea to simply call our new OS
> NewOS
> > 
> > (provided Travis agrees, of course). The name itself, IMHO, seems to
> > reflect
> > 
> > the spirit of this initiative (and, one might argue, Be's original aim
> of
> > 
> > doing away with legacy codes). I know this may appear to be a rather
> > 
> > controversial move, especially since we have gotten so used to the
> "BeOS"
> > 
> > name, but I think it would be in our best interests to use a name that
> > will
> > 
> > not antagonize either Palm or Be Inc. (they might not take too well to
> an
> > OS
> > 
> > whose name consists of their trademark, prefixed by the word "Open"). It
> > 
> > would seem to be a better approach to settle on a name and stick with it
> > to
> > 
> > the end rather than have to change it sometime later in the future.
> > 
> >    I have visited the NewOS website sometime around last week at
> > 
> > http://newos.sourceforge.net and found that the site is already
> relatively
> > 
> > complete. There are already three mailing lists set up (which is not
> being
> > 
> > fully utilized yet, at present) that we might be able to use, rather
> than
> > 
> > setting up more mailing lists elsewhere. At times like this, IMHO, it is
> > 
> > very important for us to stick together and not go about creating too
> many
> > 
> > separate projects, as far as possible. I cannot say how receptive Travis
> > or
> > 
> > you guys will be to this suggestion, but it is just a thought that might
> > be
> > 
> > able to avoid the stress and inconvenience that might possibly occur in
> > the
> > 
> > future if, for example, Palm or Be were to suddenly decide to send us a
> > 
> > "friendly" letter asking us to change the name of this OS. I am aware
> that
> > 
> > some of you have already set up websites with the "openbeos" name (e.g.
> > 
> > open-beos.sourceforge.net and the Open BeOS Developer's Network
> website),
> > 
> > and that, I think is a very good thing. I am just concerned that if we
> > were
> > 
> > to change the name later, it would be much more inconvenient than to
> > change
> > 
> > the name now (especially since Be Inc. doesn't seem to encourage
> > open-source
> > 
> > initiatives of BeOS by taking up most of the openbeos-related domain
> > names).
> > 
> >    Anyhow, this is just a thought, and there might be good reasons why
> > 
> > all this might not be a good idea that I have failed to consider.
> Whether
> > 
> > this is adopted or not is up to the OpenBeOS developer's community. What
> > do
> > 
> > you guys think of the idea?
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     bsa [SMTP:bsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent:     Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:55 PM
> > > To:       openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject:  [openbeos] Re: A bit of prep talk
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > people are examining NewOS/AtheOS/BeOS and teams are forming up.
> > Thats
> > > > great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We're not loosing focus, and I'm glad to see
> that
> > > we're
> > > > agreeing that most of our attention is on the 2 major components
> > (kernel
> > > and
> > > > app_kit/interface kit).
> > > 
> > > I think (if i wrong, please correct me) - OpenBeOS is a little error.
> > > Recreation of system is not necessary.
> > > OpenBeOS will not become BeOS with open source. Our old BeOS slowly
> > moves
> > > to
> > > graveyard.
> > > But NewOS is raising, and we can help its developer - we really can
> > create
> > > new object-oriented opensource
> > > operating system. Kernel is about ready. It is main.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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