[openbeos] Re: Site Audit

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Matt Madia <mattmadia@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Oliver Ruiz Dorantes
> <oliver.ruiz.dorantes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi
> >>
> >> Not sure I understand what you mean... I want to try to get away from
> >> people submitting their own mirrors and links to files. If everything is
> all
> >> in one place, even if it goes down, it would be a lot easier to retrieve
> >> than if files are scattered all over the web.
> >
> >
> > Just people posting you a temporal URL where you can retrieve and mirror
> the
> > lost app.
> >
> >>
> >> I didn't. I didn't download or add Zeta apps because Zeta is dead. Also,
> I
> >> didn't download sources.
> >
> >
> > Thats a mistake. All bin only app is unmaintanable and will become
> unuseful
> > as soon as Haiku switches to gcc4 or further evolutions. Maybe few(10%?)
> of
> > the apps you saved had its sources, but these are the only ones that have
> a
> > choice to stay in the future for Haiku.
> >
> >>
> >> There are very few sources available. I thought long and hard about this
> >> one. I don't want Haikuware to become a repository for source code.
> >
> >
> > Its not that it has to be in haikuware. The code could be included with
> the
> > package, or an osdrawer project could be opened for each of them. "Where"
> is
> > not the question now, just having them in a safe place before more
> websites
> > are gone, and that valueable codebase lost forever.
> > If it cannot be in Haikuware. We need to have somewhere with as much as
> beos
> > app sources avaliable, not in terms of repository thats for OsDrawer. But
> in
> > terms ensure all beos apps that were opensourced are safe and can be
> > maintained and reinserted in Haiku for the future.
> > So if someone moreover the bin of karl's list has the sources... SPAM me
> > please. I might find some time for a website for this.
> >
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with this thinking.
> Any application that has source code is 100% valuable and should be
> preserved.
> Remember, Haiku is opensource.   Even if Haiku Inc., chooses not to
> implement Zeta-specific API, someone else may.
> Even if no one does that,  someone may re-write Zeta-only applications
> to work on Haiku.  Maybe they use it purely as a reference.


I think you guys have changed my mind :) Whatever files I come across from
now on I will include the sources in the same zip file as the binary, and
include 'sources included' in the description. I don't know about going
through all 2200+ files though and checking if there are sources available.
I'll do what I can!


>
>
> I understand and respect Karl's decision to not host Zeta-only software.
> But I needed to add another voice to the importance of preserving
> BeOS/Zeta/Haiku source code.
> We are a small community with an even smaller application base.
>
>


-- 
Karl vom Dorff
B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)

http://www.karlvd.com
http://www.clubloreley.org
http://www.haikuware.com

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