> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [openbeos] Re: Site Audit > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:41:45 -0400 > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:47 PM, . Meanwhile . <meanwhile@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [openbeos] Re: Site Audit > > > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:24:19 -0400 > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM, . Meanwhile . <meanwhile@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [openbeos] Site Audit > > > > > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:59:55 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Community, > > > > > > > > > > It's probably no surprise to many of you (as you see the number of > > files > > > > on > > > > > Haikuware increase) that I've been spending the last while auditing > > > > BeBits. > > > > > > > > > > I think it's important to have a software base ready for when Haiku's > > > > ready, > > > > > and if users have to deal with the vast amount of missing software at > > > > BeBits > > > > > where ~35% (conservative estimate) of the files are missing, they > > will > > > > > surely get frustrated! Some may argue, why bother? The software is > > old! > > > > To > > > > > them I would say - old software doesn't necessarily equate to bad > > > > > software... Also, imagine if BeBits were gone tomorrow. That would be > > a > > > > > great loss. > > > > > > > > > > To make a long story short, here's what I've been doing: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - downloading all available files. When there was missing > > software, I > > > > > would check against the file name at: a) BeShare b) Archive.org > > > > > c) Google d) > > > > > Check the Talkback comments for links. In short, if the missing > > files > > > > were > > > > > available somewhere on the net, they have to be hiding pretty > > good... > > > > > - importing the files, descriptions, dates, icons, etc. Adding > > > > archived > > > > > links to author homepages if they disappeared, etc. > > > > > - centralizing all the files on one server (later to be mirrored > > in > > > > > Europe and Asia) so that the infamous BeBits 'missing file/dead > > link' > > > > never > > > > > happens again. > > > > > - linking files only to one category. BeBits is confusing and > > > > misleading > > > > > because files are listed in multiple categories (artificially > > > > inflating the > > > > > file counts in each category. e.g total file count listed on > > > > > their frontpage > > > > > when adding all together = 6500, actual files = 3535). So when > > you're > > > > > browsing software, you don't know whether you've already passed > > by > > > > the file > > > > > you're looking at or not therefore wasting time. Not to mention > > > > > wasting time > > > > > finding a link that works or visiting unwelcomed porn sites hehe. > > > > > - removed Zeta software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm 90% complete the task, and will be spending the next 2-3 weeks > > > > > finishing. BeBits lists 3535 'files' on their website, of which I > > > > estimate > > > > > 35% are gone (= 2298 actual files). Today I uploaded the 2222nd file > > to > > > > > Haikuware, meaning very shortly, Haikuware may be the largest (but > > not > > > > most > > > > > popular) online provider of BeOS (and Haiku if Haiku R1 achieves > > binary > > > > > compatibilty) software (and maybe retro software in general)... But > > > > that's > > > > > not really the point. > > > > > > > > > > *The point is, I'd like to salvage as much BeOS software as possible. > > I'd > > > > > like to ask the community to contribute any missing files (that I'm > > sure > > > > > they have on CDs in their basements) my way, so I can fill the > > missing > > > > gaps. > > > > > I've tried to keep a record (sometimes GoogleDocs crashed on me) of > > the > > > > > missing files, and for the most part, should be pretty complete. You > > can > > > > > view the documents here (in XLS, ODF): * > > > > > > > > > > http://www.haikuware.com/downloads/registered/haikuware.zip > > > > > > > > > > Although I would hope most people see this endeavour as a good thing, > > I > > > > can > > > > > appreciate that some developers may not like their software hosted at > > > > > Haikuware. Please contact me, and I'll remove whatever you wish. > > > > > > > > > > Lastly, I know the design of Haikuware lacks in function, speed, and > > > > > aesthetics (compared to BeBits). Once I'm done with all the files, > > I'll > > > > be > > > > > re-designing the website and hope to have it ready for the Alpha 1 > > > > release. > > > > > I'm looking at an RoR design perhaps. Something that will be able to > > > > stand a > > > > > huge database and lots of traffic. I'm also looking to create a > > unique > > > > > website that will combine the best parts of VersionTracker, BeBits, > > > > > Download.com, etc. Therefore, if anyone can recommend a good > > > > developer/team > > > > > or has any suggestions I'd be greatful. Also, if anyone here thinks > > they > > > > may > > > > > be up to this task (I'd like to keep the work in the community if > > > > possible), > > > > > contact me privately with your resume. It has to be someone with > > serious > > > > > credentials (not a Joomla hacker like me) with 6-8 weeks of > > > > > *full-time*labour. A full proposal is in the works, and will probably > > > > > be 20-30 pages. > > > > > Ask for my budget - serious enquiries only please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Karl vom Dorff > > > > > B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor) > > > > > > > > > > http://www.karlvd.com > > > > > http://www.clubloreley.org > > > > > http://www.haikuware.com > > > > > > > > Great work! > > > > Could you also make an unsorted but alphabetical list of it? > > > > I guess many -other- people will have just a single 'BeOSfiles' folder > > > > somewhere on their HD or CD. > > > > The software that opened the .xls file can't seem to do this (though I > > > > almost never use it). > > > > > > > > > It's all in cells organized by category and alphabetical in the cells. > > > > > > > And that's just the problem > > I was asking for it to be 'all in a single list organized by alphabet, no > > categories, no cells' shape, i.e. just a long list in for example a .txt > > file. > > > I've spent literally hundreds of hours on the site and am still not done, > maybe a community member can offer to reorganize it to your liking? It's > functional for me, you can always do a search for something particular you > may be looking for. I was thinking maybe you have an uncategorized still stored somewhere, i.e. the list from which you started off categorizing. That might be handy. In no way did I want to suggest that you add more hours to those hundreds by making one. Meanwhile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Karl vom Dorff > > > B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor) > > > > > > http://www.karlvd.com > > > http://www.clubloreley.org > > > http://www.haikuware.com > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > -- > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > > > > -- > Karl vom Dorff > B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor) > > http://www.karlvd.com > http://www.clubloreley.org > http://www.haikuware.com > = -- Powered by Outblaze