[openbeos] Re: Site Audit

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:47 PM, . Meanwhile . <meanwhile@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [openbeos] Re: Site Audit
> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:24:19 -0400
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM, . Meanwhile . <meanwhile@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [openbeos] Site Audit
> > > > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:59:55 -0400
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Community,
> > > >
> > > > It's probably no surprise to many of you (as you see the number of
> files
> > > on
> > > > Haikuware increase) that I've been spending the last while auditing
> > > BeBits.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's important to have a software base ready for when Haiku's
> > > ready,
> > > > and if users have to deal with the vast amount of missing software at
> > > BeBits
> > > > where ~35% (conservative estimate) of the files are missing, they
> will
> > > > surely get frustrated! Some may argue, why bother? The software is
> old!
> > > To
> > > > them I would say - old software doesn't necessarily equate to bad
> > > > software... Also, imagine if BeBits were gone tomorrow. That would be
> a
> > > > great loss.
> > > >
> > > > To make a long story short, here's what I've been doing:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     - downloading all available files. When there was missing
> software, I
> > > >     would check against the file name at: a) BeShare b) Archive.org
> > > > c) Google d)
> > > >     Check the Talkback comments for links. In short, if the missing
> files
> > > were
> > > >     available somewhere on the net, they have to be hiding pretty
> good...
> > > >     - importing the files, descriptions, dates, icons, etc. Adding
> > > archived
> > > >     links to author homepages if they disappeared, etc.
> > > >     - centralizing all the files on one server (later to be mirrored
> in
> > > >     Europe and Asia) so that the infamous BeBits 'missing file/dead
> link'
> > > never
> > > >     happens again.
> > > >     - linking files only to one category. BeBits is confusing and
> > > misleading
> > > >     because files are listed in multiple categories (artificially
> > > inflating the
> > > >     file counts in each category. e.g total file count listed on
> > > > their frontpage
> > > >     when adding all together = 6500, actual files = 3535). So when
> you're
> > > >     browsing software, you don't know whether you've already passed
> by
> > > the file
> > > >     you're looking at or not therefore wasting time. Not to mention
> > > > wasting time
> > > >     finding a link that works or visiting unwelcomed porn sites hehe.
> > > >     - removed Zeta software.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm 90% complete the task, and will be spending the next 2-3 weeks
> > > > finishing. BeBits lists 3535 'files' on their website, of which I
> > > estimate
> > > > 35% are gone (= 2298 actual files). Today I uploaded the 2222nd file
> to
> > > > Haikuware, meaning very shortly, Haikuware may be the largest (but
> not
> > > most
> > > > popular) online provider of BeOS (and Haiku if Haiku R1 achieves
> binary
> > > > compatibilty) software (and maybe retro software in general)... But
> > > that's
> > > > not really the point.
> > > >
> > > > *The point is, I'd like to salvage as much BeOS software as possible.
> I'd
> > > > like to ask the community to contribute any missing files (that I'm
> sure
> > > > they have on CDs in their basements) my way, so I can fill the
> missing
> > > gaps.
> > > > I've tried to keep a record (sometimes GoogleDocs crashed on me) of
> the
> > > > missing files, and for the most part, should be pretty complete. You
> can
> > > > view the documents here (in XLS, ODF): *
> > > >
> > > > http://www.haikuware.com/downloads/registered/haikuware.zip
> > > >
> > > > Although I would hope most people see this endeavour as a good thing,
> I
> > > can
> > > > appreciate that some developers may not like their software hosted at
> > > > Haikuware. Please contact me, and I'll remove whatever you wish.
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, I know the design of Haikuware lacks in function, speed, and
> > > > aesthetics (compared to BeBits). Once I'm done with all the files,
> I'll
> > > be
> > > > re-designing the website and hope to have it ready for the Alpha 1
> > > release.
> > > > I'm looking at an RoR design perhaps. Something that will be able to
> > > stand a
> > > > huge database and lots of traffic. I'm also looking to create a
> unique
> > > > website that will combine the best parts of VersionTracker, BeBits,
> > > > Download.com, etc. Therefore, if anyone can recommend a good
> > > developer/team
> > > > or has any suggestions I'd be greatful. Also, if anyone here thinks
> they
> > > may
> > > > be up to this task (I'd like to keep the work in the community if
> > > possible),
> > > > contact me privately with your resume. It has to be someone with
> serious
> > > > credentials (not a Joomla hacker like me) with 6-8 weeks of
> > > > *full-time*labour. A full proposal is in the works, and will probably
> > > > be 20-30 pages.
> > > > Ask for my budget - serious enquiries only please.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Karl vom Dorff
> > > > B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.karlvd.com
> > > > http://www.clubloreley.org
> > > > http://www.haikuware.com
> > >
> > > Great work!
> > > Could you also make an unsorted but alphabetical list of it?
> > > I guess many -other- people will have just a single 'BeOSfiles' folder
> > > somewhere on their HD or CD.
> > > The software that opened the .xls file can't seem to do this (though I
> > > almost never use it).
> >
> >
> > It's all in cells organized by category and alphabetical in the cells.
> >
>
> And that's just the problem
> I was asking for it to be 'all in a single list organized by alphabet, no
> categories, no cells' shape, i.e. just a long list in for example a .txt
> file.


I've spent literally hundreds of hours on the site and am still not done,
maybe a community member can offer to reorganize it to your liking? It's
functional for me, you can always do a search for something particular you
may be looking for.

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Karl vom Dorff
B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)

http://www.karlvd.com
http://www.clubloreley.org
http://www.haikuware.com

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