"Stephan Assmus" <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote: ... > sorry, but I have to disagree here. I'm usually more on the > "keep it clean" side of things, but viewing photos, particularily > reviewing and sorting fotos from your digicam, is something > *a lot* of people do these days. > > We have to walk a line where we decide what goes > into an operating system and what is a third party opportunity. You're probably right that it would be good to have Haiku cater to digital lifestyle needs, out of the box, but I still believe we have to be vigilant, since when a new feature has been commited to cvs/svn, promoted on blogs, and people have used it, it's much harder to remove it. What if single-window browsing, or cut/copy/paste was to be removed from Tracker? I personally think many of these changes made Tracker worse rather than improving it, and I'm sure many people disagree with me. I realize it would be a loosing battle trying to remove them, and have the project return to more original BeOS user interface principles. > Ok, propose a more feature complete image viewer is > supposed to be a third party opportunity. Suppose you > were that third party. Wouldn't you take ShowImage and > improve it? So what, then we have Haiku ShowImage and > ShowImage++? That just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see a problem in a 3'rd party offering ShowImageOnSteroids. If a major slice of the community does indeed replace the stock ShowImage with the bigger one, then yes, I believe the community should consider replacing the original. But.. in general, I don't believe in design by committee/community. There has to be a vision. Some kind of idea. Giving people what they need (=what they want?), yes, but pleasing everyone end up a hodge-podge. > If I want to remove red > eyes, ok, I fire up WonderBrush, also if I want to retouch a > foto. But we were only talking about lossless rotation! :-) Yeah, I know... Someone's got to be the party-pooper. I wonder if the simplicity of ShowImage can be retained, if you add the concept of physical data rotation in addition to persistent fake rotation. How do you present that to the user? I absolutely see the value in red eye reduction, resizing, cropping, rotating and all that. These are things I need myself. I'm basically not sure -how- I want them. /Jonas.