[openbeos] Re: OS Propaganda.... A new world order!
- From: François Revol <revol@xxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 22:01:05 +0200 (MEST)
Just like an executable really is a special library with a special entry
point...
We could discuss philosophical issues for long :D
btw I'm sure the FSF has other ppl to fight (others who doesn't use an open
licence like MIT... see what I mean ? ;))
libroot is (L?)GPLed (partly ?), that doesn't mean Opera which uses it is
GPLed :^) (if only !)
Same, glibc is GPL IIRC... (but both are shared libs... the difference on a
legal point is quite obscure to me)
Btw, back to coding...
Damn, whoever ported cdrecord to BeOS could have implement the FIFO
allocation... and a call to set_thread_priority() wouldn't have been
luxuous :^)
François.
En réponse à Linus Almstrom <linalm-7@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> This is kind of tricky actually.
>
> Reading the GPL faq this came up:
>
> "If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does that mean
> that
> any program which uses it has to be under the GPL?
> Yes, because the program as it is actually run includes the library."
>
> This is a matter of how to interpret drivers and if they can be seen
> as libraries loaded dynamivly, and I bet GNU can argue that they
> are. Could cause problems. If you want to be sure to now be in any
> sort of problem, keep away from GPL.
>
> I do not know what kind of licence obos is currently using, but
> the 0BSD licence is not compatible with GPL, accoring to GNU.
>
> Please, those of you who knows this kind of stuff, am I wrong?
>
> Regards
>
> /Procton
>
> On 2002-05-25 at 20:34:49 [+0200], openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but nothing stops BeOS from having some GPL
>
> > drivers and nothing stops Linux from having some closed drivers...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Linus Almstrom" <linalm-7@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:19 PM
> > Subject: [openbeos] Re: OS Propaganda.... A new world order!
> >
> >
> > > GPL restricts us not to port them, I guess.
> > >
> > > On 2002-05-25 at 19:41:16 [+0200], openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > Who said we couldn't use linux drivers ?
> > > > Just need to take care about where we put it, but we definitely
> can
> > > > port a linux driver.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > En réponse à Massimiliano Origgi <origgi@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >
> > > > > >I want to shorten this to a few key points, then answer them:
> > > > > >1) Drivers are a critical key to the success of OpenBeOS.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Agreed, to a degree. One thing that is a vast improvement in
> > situation
> > > > > is
> > > > > >that there is more standardization in hardware. There are only
> a
> > > > > >few
> > > > > video
> > > > > >cards out there, really - nVidia, Radeon, Matrox, etc. A lot of
> USB
> > > > > devices
> > > > > >(which are the future for many things) use standardized APIs
> (mass
> > > > > storage,
> > > > > >HCI, etc). So there will be fewer drivers to write than, say, 5
>
> > > > > >years
> > > > > ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless you have to work around broken implementations of
> standard
> > > > > protocols :
> > > > > -)
> > > > > Anyway, yes, it's a lot easier (see cd burners as an example),
> > moreover
> > > > > if
> > > > > there is the possibility to write a driver at all (read there is
>
> > > > > some code or
> > > > > a manual available), we can be pretty sure that a driver for BSD
> or
> > > > > Linux
> > > > > already exists and while we can't use Linux code directly it can
> be
> > > > > 'consulted' for infos about the hardware, saving a LOT of
> time.
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Massimiliano Origgi The future is blue with BlueOS
> > > > > http://www.intuiware.com mailto:max@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Squeezer 2.1 available!
> > > > > WorkspaceSwitcher 2.1 available!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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