Hi Koki, I've been catching up with the millions of emails on the Haiku list (from the one I'm replying to, you'll see I haven't got that far :)) You probably remember me from my push to get a new look in place for Haiku R1, I'm pretty pleased that it's happening now. I also think the MarCom team is a great idea and would like to help out where I can. I'm a native British English speaker with a good intuitive feel for marketing issues, although no formal training besides one lecture course last year. Just wanted to point out something about your replies: > > From: "Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2006/08/29 Tue PM 08:38:15 GMT > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [openbeos] Re: New website home page mockup > [...] > In your previous email, tou suggest that we "present targeted > information at each section towards each 'group' of users" (sic) [...] The "(sic)" is very unnecessary and patronising in my view. I could have included one in this for your misspelling of "you" in the very same sentence, but honestly don't see the purpose it serves. The reason I email is that this is the second time I have seen this from you in the space of a few emails, both of which to non-native English speakers whose meanings were perfectly clear. From list correspondence in the past I think we agree on most issues. I really like your front page mockup that was being discussed around the beginning of September. However since you became the MarCom leader often your emails have an over-authoritative tone. I realise you feel you should have the final say on MarCom issues, but perhaps you should be a little less dismissive and more open to debate. I hope I haven't offended you, it's just advice to hopefully allow you to gain the respect of the developers so they come to you freely and routinely for help and advice with MarCom issues. I don't think the attitude I'm currently reading in emails is conducive to that. As another example your criticism of the process leading to the design contest nearly caused me to jump in to defend you after the anger it caused with many of the core developers. I agreed with your point, but it could have been written a little more sensitively IMHO. I guess my core point is that as Haiku is a completely voluntary group of people, you will not be able to enforce any "right" you have to control marketing issues. Because of that you should treat the role differently to a normal Marketing Manager position. A more level tone will make it more likely that people will do their public announcements through the correct MarCom channel - rather than doing it themselves and you in retrospect trying to assert your authority over them. Simon >, but > then now you go to say that you do not like splitting people into > groups. You have managed to confuse me! :-) > > > Thats not the point, but rather splitting up content so you > > don't present everything at once. If you need developer > > info, visit the developer section, and so on. > > The purpose of a home page is to give a snapshot of what's inside the > website, and to give entry points to the resources that visitors are > looking for. Given the target audience that we currently have, I think > the mockup includes an intelligent choice of content and links to cater > to that audience. > > Of course you could have visitors click two or three times, and scroll > pages as required to get to their target content. But since we have a > clearly identified key target audience, you can make an intelligent > guess of what content they will be interested in, and make that > accessible with one click. This is what the proposed concept does. > > Koki > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information