We, as a community, MUST figure out how to prevent a sudden, "disappeared-off-the-face-of-the-earth" situation like this. I think having all the eggs in one basket, while extremely convenient, also allows events like this to occur. And, if there are/were apps that we wanted to get? Too late, now. No way of knowing when (or if) we'll ever see them again. The fact there was no warning, whatsoever, tends to make one wonder just what, exactly, happened. Massive power outage? DDoS attack? Did the NSA/FBI/CIA confiscate the site, because Karl is actually a radical Muslim spy? Or... one dare not even think this thought, but... was a HUGE bounty given, and Karl took the money and ran? Anything is possible, but until someone "in the know" actually speaks up, we WON'T know. I think we need to also have a level of quality for Haiku software submitted, that keeps track of what runs and what doesn't, on what revision(s) of Haiku. Setting the standard of "only the last official Alpha", allows for far too many apps to break between nightly revisions that span the huge gulf between official Alphas. Redundancy would have prevented this incident from happening. I assume mirrors would prevent this from happening. Or maybe just sites with links to every developer and each dev maintains their own software quality control. That way, if one dev's site goes down, it doesn't throw everything into a black hole. Just some various thoughts... Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Jimmy <jimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 1:49 AM, pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> Hi, >> We haven't lost BeBits and HaikuWare, I hope...? >> I followed a link to a BeBits app, and get "www.bebits.com -- site not >> found"! >> So I went to check Haikuware, and reach similar nonexistence. (:-() >> (Other web access seems OK here.) >> >> I *really* hope this is a temporary glitch! >> >> -- Pete -- > Just to add 2 cents.. I used to get apps via BeShare back in the day. Maybe > we don't need a haikuware site.. Maybe just a pretty face on something like > BeShare to turn it into an App Store, (without a web site based hub.) > Beos was always about simplifying the standard models of the day.. > Shaka