[openbeos] Re: Bootable Test CD

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 08:52 +0100, Thom Holwerda wrote:
> Time to play devil's advocate.
> 
> This knife cuts both ways, you know. While  I understand developers  
> get cold feet with things like this, there is also a time when you  
> have to "cut the damn [umbilical] cord already!" What I mean by this  
> is that is this: in x months, we want to release an alpha, and more or  
> less, we have decided it should be a working live CD. But, uhm, how  
> are we going to release a working live CD when no one gets to test  
> this feature? It's a fairly crucial part, so shouldn't we applaud any  
> efforts to make the testing of it easier?
> 
> It is similar to the discussion we had a few weeks ago on whether or  
> not the alpha should contain a working installation routine  
> (partitioner+installer). My argument then was that this is such a  
> crucial feature (if it fails, the Haiku experience is over), that  
> exactly because of it being crucial, it should be included and enabled  
> in the alpha. This falls under the same header if you ask me.
> 
> I'm not saying the live CD should be released *now*, I'm just saying  
> that we have to think about the fact that we can't keep the umbilical  
> attached forever, and then cut it two days before we release the  
> alpha, and then expect it all to work just might fine, without it  
> having seen any real-world testing. VMware is nice, but it shouldn't  
> become an obsession. In the grand scheme of things, VMware is a  
> crappy, stop-gap solution that we should strive to run away from  
> screaming schoolgirlishly, instead of stick to.

Everything will be tested in Haiku, including CD booting and the
installer. But there is a time for everything, including testing, and
it is up to the devs to decide when that time is. From what the couple
of devs that have spoken out are saying, that time has not arrived yet
apparently.

This is not being reluctant to cut the umbilical cord; instead, I think
the devs are just asking people to be patient and wait until the stuff
is ready so that testing can be meaningful to and manageable by the
limited pool of developers that Haiku has. I think this is both a
reasonable and legitimate request.

Cheers,

Koki



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