[openbeos] Re: Atheos Forked

I understand your points and it's an interesting idea. However, I think 
that we (OpenBeOS) already have a challenge -- a tremendous one at that 
-- of recreating R5. This alone is sufficient to keep us focused for 
quite some time. I don't think we badly need to take on any other 
challenges at the moment.

As I see it, the BeOS is more than just a piece of technical work, but 
more like.. a spirit, a way of looking at things and doing things. 
We've set ourselves the task of recreating and even extending that. We 
are really competing with the ghost of Be, not with any other current 
BeOS derivative projects.

I don't think that you ever see that kind of spirit in the Linux world 
which is more technically oriented and steeped in the adolescent nerd 
mentality. You don't see it in the Windows world, which is commerical 
and soul-less. You do see it in the Mac world (altho then you are, to a 
degree, stuck in the world-according-to-Steve). I think that this may 
be our ultimate incentive to succeed -- we don't want to be forced to 
move into those "other" worlds.

Having said all that, it is true that if, over time, many current BeOS 
users migrate over to a Linux/BeOS hybrid, we may feel the need to 
prove that our implementation has marked advantages in latencies, 
responsiveness, etc. But that's still a ways off -- we can cross that 
bridge when we get there. Right now, we don't really need to defend our 
choice of kernel...again (we've done that many times already).

To me, this annoucement about an Atheos-tweaked, BeOS compatible OS 
sounds like a proof-of-concept. A proud engineer's baby. Is it really 
meant to be a fully usable, supported, living OS, with a thriving user 
and developer community? OpenBeOS certainly is intended to be real, not 
just a fun project for geeks (tho it can be fun).

I certainly think the announcement is interesting. I'd be curious to 
take a look what Bill Hayden has done myself. But I don't think it 
makes a jot of difference to this project at this point. Our challenge 
is, first and foremost, build the thing and get it working. Then, make 
sure it not only works, but works beautifully. Who's up for that?


>Sounds to me like a challenge... and one with potentially positive 
>ramifications.
>
>This AtheOS/BeOS/LinuxKernel hybrid will bridge a gap between Linux 
>developers/users and BeOS developers/users.  It can't hurt any efforts 
>to keep BeOS alive, as it is source level compatible, and therefore, 
it 
>seems to me that it would tend to bring even more apps to the various 
>BeOS-derivatives, such as OpenBeOS, BlueOS, and this AtheOS/Linux one 
- 
>get more developers creating apps and learning the Be API basics.
>
>So the challenge is - prove that OpenBeOS, with the NewOS-based 
kernel, 
>performs much better than the Linux-kernel-based platforms.  The 
masses 
>will eventually migrate over to the better OpenBeOS platform via the 
>bridge created by Bill Hayden.
>
>You all up for that?  ;)
>
>Deej
>
>

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