[haiku-web] Re: Website

On 2006-03-19 at 00:08:52 [+0100], "Mikael Jansson (mailing lists)" 
<lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> >
> > [wiki stuff snipped]
> >
> > Go for Best of Breed assuming you can do the plumbing.
> > 
> It's the plumbing I'm worried about. ClearSilver.. *shiver*  But yes,
> some initial time in the beginning will probably prove valuable later
> on when there is a good CMS in place.

Plumbing between systems: Trac for bugs, "XMS" for content management, 
Mailman for mailing lists.

> How does Plone do in that respect? The CPS install at the EuroPython2k5
> web site was *awful*. I don't know if it's the default/supposed
> behaviour, but adding a section to the page required about three or
> four clicks and page reloads.
  
CPS is not Plone but another CMF off-shoot developed in Paris for French 
government agencies. As with most of the EuroPython sites they have been 
done by well-meaning but clueless developers. Zope's CMF comes with all you 
need for something like that but it's a bit clumsy to use but most 
developers have always gone through the ZMI anyway so they don't care.
 
> Bah, don't underestimate the power of enums! (I agree)

Oh, now I'm really feeling sick. Trac emulates enums in SQLite because it 
doesn't have this "cool" feature that MySQL does. And "the crowning turd in 
the waterpipe" is the need for CASE all over the SQL as a result!!! CASE is 
always to bloody slow and it's horribly obfuscating.
 
> > Punish non-developers by not giving them access to these features.
> >
> Okay, so this is actually a real problem. Internally, Trac opens up the
> Subversion repository top folder to gain access to the commit messages
> to use in its timeline. It's also used for the source browser.  I don't
> know how easy it would be to run Trac on a server that doesn't have
> "physical" access to the repository.

At the very worst get svn to export something like RSS and put a wrapper 
under Trac to read it. I'm sure it's easy to do something better than that.
 
> > (In case
> > you haven't noticed the recent non-discussions on the main openbeos
> > list
> > annoyed me somewhat).
> > 
> What's wrong with leaf discussions? I can talk for hours on end about
> the color of autumn...
 
Must send you the "audio pullout" from "On the hour" about a leaf farm.

> > Bedtime, cycling tomorrow!
> > 
> Woo, luxury!  Watch out so you don't fall, again!

As long as nobody expects 400 cyclists to be herded like bulls in Pamplona 
I'll be okay.

Anyway

FC United of Manchester 8:1 Leek CSOB

:-))))))))))

http://www.fc-utd.co.uk

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