[haiku-web] Re: Trac (reevaluated)
- From: Waldemar Kornewald <wkornew@xxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:33:06 +0200
Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki) wrote:
I could write reasonably good copy (although English is not my mother
tongue); I am also sure that there is talent out there that could do a
good job; you may need more than one person.
The biggest problem is that we don't have good end-user documentation. The
website is really a minor issue compared to this problem. If you want you can
take over that task and organize a complete team to work on the documentation.
A few people started the (unofficial) Haiku documentation here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haiku
It could become the official Haiku documentation.
We also need people working on the HaikuBook (API documentation).
I don't always have enough time to watch everything, so I fear that it
could get
out of control and people start adding overloaded content to the wiki
and in the
end we remove 90% of it, so everyone gets frustrated and stops adding content
(over-exaggerated scenario).
I see there is an outline under "Layout" in the wiki, but has this been
thoroughly discussed? Is the leadership of the project happy with it?
I once proposed something that the leadership liked. The wiki has an
improved
version of this.
It may be that I did not articulate myself well enough about this. I am
not talking about translation; that would come later. I am asking if in
the design of the new site you have taken into consideration the ability
to easily localize content. I make this question in the hope that
The way this will be done depends on our CMS.
would rather see resources put into accommodating localization of
content than migrating from Bugzilla to Trac which, I have to agree with
Axel and Michael here, should be lower priority as what we have does
work adequately and there is no compelling reason to change; I think
putting all the resources of the team into creating the new site.
Charlie and Mikael are Python and Trac developers. It would not make a lot
of
sense to put them on a Rails project. We want to switch to something better
than Bugzilla, anyway (there's even a bug report for this). We don't lose
anything if they work on Trac.
PS: So, who are the web team members? What do they do?
Charlie and Mikael want to work on Trac. Kurtis is the official team lead,
but
he is very busy, too. I'm just doing this as a little side-project (between my
other Haiku activities).
PS2: I see that "Qunu for end-user support" has been added to the
website wiki. Is this officially endorsed by HAIKU?
This was more like a suggestion that we could use it. The IRC channel would
work, too, but that requires an IRC client, so Qunu sounds better for
instant-help. No, it's not official and we haven't talked about it, yet.
You're requesting a lot, but most of us are very busy with real-life. If you
want to change something then please contribute. Organize a team. Do what you
suggested. You seem to have enough time. Is that okay? And could you please
stop nagging? Do something. Thanks a lot!
Bye,
Waldemar Kornewald
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I could write reasonably good copy (although English is not my mother tongue); I am also sure that there is talent out there that could do a good job; you may need more than one person.
The biggest problem is that we don't have good end-user documentation. The website is really a minor issue compared to this problem. If you want you can take over that task and organize a complete team to work on the documentation. A few people started the (unofficial) Haiku documentation here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haiku It could become the official Haiku documentation.
I see there is an outline under "Layout" in the wiki, but has this been thoroughly discussed? Is the leadership of the project happy with it?
I once proposed something that the leadership liked. The wiki has an improved version of this.
It may be that I did not articulate myself well enough about this. I am not talking about translation; that would come later. I am asking if in the design of the new site you have taken into consideration the ability to easily localize content. I make this question in the hope that
The way this will be done depends on our CMS.
would rather see resources put into accommodating localization of content than migrating from Bugzilla to Trac which, I have to agree with Axel and Michael here, should be lower priority as what we have does work adequately and there is no compelling reason to change; I think putting all the resources of the team into creating the new site.
Charlie and Mikael are Python and Trac developers. It would not make a lot of sense to put them on a Rails project. We want to switch to something better than Bugzilla, anyway (there's even a bug report for this). We don't lose anything if they work on Trac.
Charlie and Mikael want to work on Trac. Kurtis is the official team lead, but he is very busy, too. I'm just doing this as a little side-project (between my other Haiku activities).
PS2: I see that "Qunu for end-user support" has been added to the website wiki. Is this officially endorsed by HAIKU?
This was more like a suggestion that we could use it. The IRC channel would work, too, but that requires an IRC client, so Qunu sounds better for instant-help. No, it's not official and we haven't talked about it, yet.
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- From: Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)
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