[haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)

Hi Charlie

2007/11/12, Charlie Clark <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Am 12.11.2007 um 15:07 schrieb Niels Reedijk:
>
> > We made a switch once from Bugzilla to Trac. What is the added value
> > of switching again? I'm curious about what exactly doesn't work for
> > whom, and why should we care. Trac seems clean and effective, and
> > moreover it works for me, so why should we switch?
>
> Trac isn't clean: it has a really awful data model. I spent quite a
> lot of time customising it for yellowTAB adding some of this stuff.
> We don't need the wiki part and we currently don't use the svn
> integration and integration with other systems isn't very easy.

You're right. I seem to remember that trac was chosen because it 'fit'
with the choice for subversion. Up to now, we haven't been using it
very much though...

(BTW, I have been using the Wiki part, but I agree that it isn't
indispensible).

> Because of the borked data model we currently implement product
> hierarchies using a javascript hack which I personally find
> unpalatable. However, if you're happy to pick up the maintenance then
> please go ahead. I have just been thinking out loud in case I really
> am the bug tracker maintenance.

Well, I'm certainly not happy to pick up the major maintenance ;-) .
Seriously, I offer help in the area of regular maintenance: keeping
trac up to date, porting our patches, checking whether the backup
mechanism works.

> As far as the migration goes: I'm no fan of moving to new systems
> just because they're new and cool but I personally feel that a sound
> data model is important (Trac's is bad but Bugzilla's is much worse).

Well, there are two options:

1. Continue to use trac.
a. If we can use the svn module, and if this provides added value, it
might make for a descent argument to keep using track for the tickets
(for now). Whenever we grow out of the ticket system, it might be a
good idea to start shopping around.

2. Switch to another issue tracker.

I'm offering help on both options, though limited to regular
maintenance. In the end, it's your call.

Niels

P.S. There is a ticket about tying subversion and trac together in
http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/966. There is discussion about svnsync
which requires subversion 1.4 to be installed on berlios. However,
berlios also seems to offer rsync. Would that work?
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