[haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: "Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:20 +0900
Hi Charlie,
Charlie Clark wrote:
Am 12.11.2007 um 15:07 schrieb Niels Reedijk:
We made a switch once from Bugzilla to Trac. What is the added value
of switching again? I'm curious about what exactly doesn't work for
whom, and why should we care. Trac seems clean and effective, and
moreover it works for me, so why should we switch?
Trac isn't clean: it has a really awful data model. I spent quite a lot
of time customising it for yellowTAB adding some of this stuff. We don't
need the wiki part and we currently don't use the svn integration and
integration with other systems isn't very easy. Because of the borked
data model we currently implement product hierarchies using a javascript
hack which I personally find unpalatable. However, if you're happy to
pick up the maintenance then please go ahead. I have just been thinking
out loud in case I really am the bug tracker maintenance.
As far as the migration goes: I'm no fan of moving to new systems just
because they're new and cool but I personally feel that a sound data
model is important (Trac's is bad but Bugzilla's is much worse).
I remember how the move to Trac was pushed a bit forcefully (if I may
use the word to make a point). Several of the admins/devs were not very
convinced that it was necessary to migrate, but it happened anyway
thanks to the "enthusiasm" of one individual.
Now it turns out that the feature that is triggering a move to leave
Trac behind is one that the system that Trac replaced (Bugzilla) did
have. Ironies aside, I just think that you need a stronger justification
to put the project through another bug system migration, with all the
impact that this can have on the users.
Cheers,
Koki
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Am 12.11.2007 um 15:07 schrieb Niels Reedijk:
We made a switch once from Bugzilla to Trac. What is the added value of switching again? I'm curious about what exactly doesn't work for whom, and why should we care. Trac seems clean and effective, and moreover it works for me, so why should we switch?
Trac isn't clean: it has a really awful data model. I spent quite a lot of time customising it for yellowTAB adding some of this stuff. We don't need the wiki part and we currently don't use the svn integration and integration with other systems isn't very easy. Because of the borked data model we currently implement product hierarchies using a javascript hack which I personally find unpalatable. However, if you're happy to pick up the maintenance then please go ahead. I have just been thinking out loud in case I really am the bug tracker maintenance.
As far as the migration goes: I'm no fan of moving to new systems just because they're new and cool but I personally feel that a sound data model is important (Trac's is bad but Bugzilla's is much worse).
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Charlie Clark
- [haiku-web] The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Niels Reedijk
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Charlie Clark
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Charlie Clark
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Niels Reedijk
- [haiku-web] Re: The state of Trac (was: Re: Website Maintainer)
- From: Charlie Clark