[haiku-web] Re: CMS

> 
> > Content creation? Yes.
> > But I am not a Zope or Python programmer. I could learn it, but I'd 
> > have
> > to invest a lot of time to get something done. That's not good.
> > Small changes like some of the ones we plan for Trac are not a 
> > problem
> > for me. I'm willing to read Plone+Zope tutorials and learn how to 
> > use,
> > customize, and maintain it (if we want Plone or whatever). IMHO, we 
> > need
> > at least two people who can maintain Plone, so we don't rely on 
> > only one
> > person.
> 
> Well, that applies to any system we go with. Tic has no Zope 
> experience and 
> tends to go with the latest Python fashions (I hope he'll forgive me 
> for 
> that) but I'm sure he'd be able to help me with some of the low level 
> stuff. 
>
Yeah, unless my ways are too fashionable. ;)

Currently, I'm scheduled for TuneTracker development on Tuesdays, so I 
have a spare slot on Thursdays for this.

>
> Plus we really should have as few systems as possible. Regarding 
> content 
> administration and creation: I am convinced that TALES makes this 
> relatively 
> easy and, more importantly, safe.
>
Personally, I love twisted.nevow, but I don't think there's anything on 
Zope using that.

Found a link comparing `different frameworks`_. Divmod's Mantissa 
sounds promising, but then we'd have to write all from scratch, which 
might not be a good idea to boot.

.. _different frameworks: http://william-os4y.livejournal.com/2006/01/20/
 
>
> tic, do you want to take a look at Zope 3 and see how it compares 
> with Django 
> for development?
>
Just what I know off the top of my head: One thing that's good about 
Django is that you can deploy it almost everywhere (runs under FastCGI, 
for example), whereas you need a separete server running Zope (which is 
slightly more difficult).  Moreover, Django's using Kid which is 
something Trac is moving towards for 0.11. 

However, I don't know how much Django would help, because from what I 
know (and this might be wrong) it's mostly about Ruby-on-Rail-style ORM
-and-CRUD-startup-help. As for the long-term ease-of-use in Django 
compared to Zope, I'm not sure...

What aspects in particular did you have in mind?

-- Mikael, playing the recorder
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