Hello everybody, Why not use a middleway proposal : for the R2, be able to load and use binary drivers of linux ? like as a ndsiwrapper was doing on linux for use wifi windows drivers as example. The basic drivers API are not so far and a little wrapping can be usefull for the missing/divergent functionnalities. And why not a source level compatibility for drivers. But its limited to the kernel drivers (so no Xorg of course,its an other journey) and not native yet drivers. Just my 2 cents in this burning hearths discuss ;) 2014-08-22 10:20 GMT+02:00 Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>: > Hello Sia, > > Am 21.08.2014 18:23, schrieb Sia Lang: > >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx >> <mailto:superstippi@xxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> Now I am really curious to see your code. Until I see it, I have to >> assume you are completely underestimating the work ahead of you. Or >> maybe we have a very different idea of "decent shape". I would love >> to understand/see your definition. >> >> Heh, lame insult attempts doesn't work on me. I'm putting the code out >> there soon enough, so let's take it from there... >> > > Maybe you need to better distinguish between "lame insult" and > "challenge". I am merily expressing my doubts, based on what I know so far, > that your definition of "decent shape" would match my definition. And that > your estimate of how much work you have ahead, respectively how "easy" > using the Linux kernel for Haiku would be, might be very optimistic. That's > all. Where is the insult in that? > > If you feel that is insulting, I wonder what you think how many Haiku > developers should feel, including me, about what you said you have > accomplished in what timeframe and what that means about how skilled and > informed the Haiku developers must be in comparison. Whether you mean to > imply that or not, it doesn't come across as if you were trying hard not to. > > I do think that your tone towards me is pretty harsh ever since I made > that "Weyland" remark for which I already apologized. Maybe you can try to > not read anything more (and insulting) into what I actually said and I will > try to do the same. > > I was one of the first to tell you I like the idea of your project and I > am genuinely interested in the code and approach. Specifically using > Wayland for the app_server. I have written or reworked most of the > Interface Kit and app_server in Haiku concerning graphics output. So why > don't we try to get along well? It might be for the mutual benefit of our > projects. I am deeply familiar with tons of small problems and necessary > quirks when you try to make your graphics stack compatible with BeOS. > > Best regards, > -Stephan > > > > -- LECOQ Vincent vincent.lecoq@xxxxxxxxx 06 09 32 18 84 09 50 24 05 58 «La faculté de citer est un substitut commode à l'intelligence» — Sommerset Maugham «L'ennui avec les citations sur Internet c'est qu'il est difficile de savoir si elles sont authentiques.» — Napoléon Bonaparte.