I've read all this, considered it, and even contemplated the variables. The current Kernel is a sunk cost, it is reasonably stable, is fairly performant given its design goals and its relatively mature and properly featured for the project. I see no benefit to switching to the linux kernel. 1. Linux driver quality is spotty, period, its not a debate, some drivers are good, some are bad, and I am speaking directly about operational quality, bugs and features. 2. The linux kernel is still unlikely to be a good fit for Haiku, lacks good BFS support, has its own design criteria, has lots of cruft, may require many out of tree patches, and the list goes on. Given those 2 reasons alone, it makes absolutely no sense to switch. Adressing Adriens time, it is well spent on webkit, webkit is huge, the API's are wanted and desired by modern app developers and the internet is a primary interface for most computer users. So I say, carry on our wayward sons, Sean