On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Siarzhuk Zharski <zharik@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Hehe... Have you seen as experienced users works with those myriads of > message boxes on other systems? Most of time they close them _automatically_ > without reading because they know the text. :-D I found this paradoxical - > developers make more alerts to secure the user against the problems but user > doesn't read their's messages and press OK without reading! Yes - this is > the way to make mistakes, because the message about really serious problem > can be acknowledged just by "habit to press OK without reading". Just > because user's attention was already overloaded by thousands of silly "Are > you sure?" requests. This is definitely a known user interface problem, and my understanding is that the preferred approach is to have undo instead of confirmation dialogs. For most software this is a good approach, but obviously something like a shutdown or restart is not exactly "undoable". > Again: to prevent user from accidental selecting those menu entries I > propose to move them into sub-menu. I think that opening sub-menu and > selecting entries from it is too "complicate" operation for sporadic user > activity. So user is secured enough in my proposal. :-) I agree that the sub-menu approach is the best because it is the fastest, should not trip up novices, and more importantly it will keep the Deskbar menu clean when additional "End Session" options are added. I also agree with Stephan that we should think about reorganizing the Deskbar menu. What is funny is that the current order is really more suited for the Deskbar at the bottom of the screen (a la Windows), yet our default is to have it at the top right corner. One approach might be to change the order of the menu depending on where the Deskbar is located. Though maybe this sort of morphing would be as annoying as the versions of Microsoft Office with menus that hide unused items (which destroys the use muscle memory in choosing menu items.) It might at least be worth experimenting with. Regards, Ryan