[haiku-development] Re: Patch reviews - help needed

On 2010-05-06 at 12:19:05 [+0200], Alexandre Deckner <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> Stephan Assmus wrote:
> > [...] it would be very nice if more regular
> > contributors would review patches and we would share the load better. 
> > After
> > all, the goal here is to give people SVN access eventually and gain new
> > contributors. We should be very happy to receive patches!
> 
> In my case, it's because i'm confortable with only a few specific areas
> of the code base.

Same here (though it might be a few more areas and I would use the phrase 
"feel responsible for"). I guess the problem with this approach is that we 
simply don't cover the full code base with it. Particularly many 
applications, preflets, and add-ons, for which quite a few layouting and 
localization patches have been made recently, are not really owned by anyone 
(though, admittedly, I refuse to even look at localization patches before 
#5408 is dealt with).

> > Now, I realize the problem may be that subscribing to the general Trac
> > notification list could be the issue here. It's just too much, I've
> > considered unsubscribing from Trac notifications as well.
> 
> I try to keep up too, but never considered unsubscribing. It's too
> important IMO.

With a working triaging as proposed not too long ago it would be way less 
important to be subscribed to the list. Though it's still nice to at least 
have a rough idea of what issues are reported, and from time to time I also 
think I can add a useful comment to ticket that doesn't directly concern me.


On 2010-05-06 at 13:08:50 [+0200], Stephan Assmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2010-05-06 at 12:52:35 [+0200], Ithamar R. Adema
> <ithamar.adema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Stephan Assmus wrote:
> > > Now, I realize the problem may be that subscribing to the general Trac
> > > notification list could be the issue here. It's just too much, I've
> > > considered unsubscribing from Trac notifications as well. Sometimes I
> > > spend
> > > two hours or more each morning just to stay on top of all the Haiku
> > > related
> > > emails, the bulk of them being Trac emails, and those are just the mails
> > > from when I was sleeping. Even worse, I get every notification twice for
> > > tickets that I have commented on, or for tickets that I have been 
> > > assigned
> > > to. Maybe for those reasons, most developers have unsubscribed from the
> > > Trac list? Who is still subscribed? It would be a good explanation why
> > > patches go unnoticed. Maybe the best solution would be to forward patch
> > > notifications to a separate list? That way, one could sign up for those,
> > > but not for all Trac notifications in general.
> > >   
> > Maybe I've missed older discussions, or maybe I'm just thick, but what
> > is the reason that patches aren't sent to this list? With a [PATCH]
> > marker in the subject any uninterested parties could just ignore them....
> 
> Mainly because whenever patches were sent to this list in the past, they
> tended to be forgotten eventually. In Trac, at least they stay available and
> in the right context. Personally I don't see the difference between getting
> additional mails on this list, or the very same mails from a different list.

With the difference that the ticket list is very busy and it's relatively 
easy to miss a patch. Particularly for those who aren't even subscribed to 
the list. :-)

> That is if the separate patch notifications for Trac can be implemented. It
> would be the best of both.

Probably. A "Commit" button in Trac would also be great. Especially for small 
patches the overhead for downloading, applying, and committing the patch 
manually is often greater than for reviewing it.

CU, Ingo

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