[haiku-development] Re: New Haiku IDE
- From: Philippe Houdoin <philippe.houdoin@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:26:14 +0200
First, Caitlin, your Sisong IDE looks very polished (as others already state) and I'm glad Haiku development toolset get your attention. I'll try to use it in the next days and report my comments. Second, regarding the needs or not for some Grand Unified Haiku IDE, my position is that having several IDE is not an issue in itself, if any at all. What could be one issue, though, is the build engines fragmentation. I really don't like the idea that Haiku open source projects could becomes in the future bound to one IDE in order to build it out-of-the-box on Haiku. Ideally, an Haiku open source software should be build independly of any specific IDE. Remember the issue with BeIDE projects files. Closed, undocumented, binary ones. Not good for versioning project build instruction changes, forbidden people without access to BeIDE to see these build instructions to port it to another build engine... Let's try to avoid this. I agree with Stephan, what Haiku project could do is provide some modern build engine "API" good enough for whatever IDEs to build upon. That will avoid open source softwares for Haiku to fragment on the build engine requirement, without forbidden developers to choose their preferred IDE. Compare Apple's XCode or Microsoft's Visual Studio to the several build engines used by so many open source projects on Unix/Linux landscape. Porting efforts are sometimes only build engine ones. When it's acceptable for foreign platform code, having the same issue on our own native platform sounds counter-productive. We don't need a grand unified IDE. What we do need, IMHO, is a grand unified build engine. I dunno if it's Haiku project role to provide one. But I do think that the several IDE authors would do a great move by unifying their build engines, ideally via an API. My 0.02 [euro] cent. Bye, Philippe.
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