I love a good bike shed debate :) Axel Dörfler wrote:
"Ryan Leavengood" <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:There are definitely several prominent BeOS applications that already have such a menu. Pe I believe does, and Vision as Rene mentioned. Since there is a definite difference between applications and their windows in BeOS/Haiku, I think it makes sense to have an application menu.Pe actually doesn't have it. And besides Vision, I don't know an application that would have this menu already (not counting in ZETA apps). Anyway, that aside, I don't think the application menu works that well with the "menu in window" way of doing things; there just isn't a global instance that identifies the application (besides its Deskbar entry, but I wouldn't advocate putting that stuff there, either).So whatever we do, IMO it won't be a completely clean solution - and since the "File" menu has "Quit" and "About" in it since forever, I don't really see the need to change that in particular - people are used to it.
I'm certainly not used to About... in the File menu, but then it's been years since I used BeOS full time. I expect most users of Haiku will be similarly unfamiliar with BeOSisms, so it is definitely possible to change stuff.
With regards to the icon in the menu, I think if there is an icon there, it should represent the document, and not the application, similar to what Tracker is doing - an icon that you can drag and actually have a reference to that document under your mouse. Those are two very different concepts, and I don't think they would go together well.
I can't say I like the Tracker icon-in-menu much either. I can see it sitting much more happily next to the address bar, but obviously not everyone has that turned on. Can those who don't right click in the folder and drag from the top of the popup menu where the directory tree menus start from?
I don't like the idea of the app-icon (I don't see a good reason why this menu should be different from the others). In the same way as the file menu is called "File" regardless of the name of your file, "Application" makes perfect sense to me, and seems the obvious home for About... Options... and Quit.
Simon