[haiku-development] Re: Mail and E-mail preferences

  • From: Gabriele Biffi <mlist@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:11:44 +0100

Axel Dörfler wrote:
Anyway, that aside, I don't think the application menu works that well with the "menu in window" way of doing things; there just isn't a global instance that identifies the application (besides its Deskbar entry, but I wouldn't advocate putting that stuff there, either).

You're right, but we have to put application-wide commands somewhere. Placing them in their own menu, even if the menu itself is inside a document window, is the most logical solution (always IMHO).


So whatever we do, IMO it won't be a completely clean solution - and since the "File" menu has "Quit" and "About" in it since forever, I don't really see the need to change that in particular - people are used to it.

Not really. In Windows, there's no Quit; you just close all your windows to quit the app. About is in the Help menu.
In Mac, they're both in the Application menu.

Placing them in the File menu is a BeOS "standard", but I don't think that Be ever did some serious UI design.


With regards to the icon in the menu, I think if there is an icon there, it should represent the document, and not the application, similar to what Tracker is doing - an icon that you can drag and actually have a reference to that document under your mouse. Those are two very different concepts, and I don't think they would go together well.

If it is the Application menu, why shouldn't it have the application's icon?
And that icon in Tracker... uhm, it's a cool feature, but is the menu bar the right place? And do we need it, after all? I don't remember the last time I used it. We want to have a clean UI, without those geeky features that nobody uses, don't we?


But we're going too far. Perhaps for R1 we should stick to something simple and closer to R5. This stuff is for GE.



Greetings,

Gabriele

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