"Ryan Leavengood" <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > There are definitely > several prominent BeOS applications that already have such a menu. Pe > I believe does, and Vision as Rene mentioned. Since there is a > definite difference between applications and their windows in > BeOS/Haiku, I think it makes sense to have an application menu. Pe actually doesn't have it. And besides Vision, I don't know an application that would have this menu already (not counting in ZETA apps). Anyway, that aside, I don't think the application menu works that well with the "menu in window" way of doing things; there just isn't a global instance that identifies the application (besides its Deskbar entry, but I wouldn't advocate putting that stuff there, either). So whatever we do, IMO it won't be a completely clean solution - and since the "File" menu has "Quit" and "About" in it since forever, I don't really see the need to change that in particular - people are used to it. With regards to the icon in the menu, I think if there is an icon there, it should represent the document, and not the application, similar to what Tracker is doing - an icon that you can drag and actually have a reference to that document under your mouse. Those are two very different concepts, and I don't think they would go together well. Bye, Axel.