Looking at the results I think we're fooling ourselves, optimizing for the most unlikely case, so to speak: the -combination- of a shortcut -and- a submenu indicator. http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/ I don't think it looks good. We're forcing two separate columns in - lots- of menus, where the simple items using either a shortcut -or- a submenu indicator would look much better aligned vertically, roughly the way they are in BeOS: http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/r5.png http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/fake_similar_to_r5.png (Not exactly pixel perfect. I used drag&drop in ShowImage.) I suggest that this layout behavior is kept: http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/keep/ And that this behavior is changed to single column: http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/fix/ In short, no space* on the right hand side unless there's a Command shortcut -combined- with a submenu indicator, in which case all submenu indicators are pushed to the right side border. Like this: http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/keep/screen06.png else, they are aligned, like this: http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/new_menuitem_layout/fake_similar_to_r5.png * The alignment is what I'm after, not necessarily the removal of space. /Jonas.