[haiku-development] Re: Haiku R1/alpha decisions

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> richard jasmin <jasminr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> you really want to ask that?
>> because you know that those getting alpha, releasable or not need to
>> have
>> a bootable os.though grub WILL do this, you refrain from it for obvious
>> reasons.its better to work all or as much kinks out as you can, for all
>> you know there are speed issues with some parts of the code.i would say
>> that is a main concern other than internal bug fixes.obviously once we
>> are up, we can tweak networking and such to our content.we can pull
>> drivers from Ubuntu or the Linux kernel if need be to incorporate them
>> in.virtual hardware is not the same and does not perform the same as
>> real
>> hardware.interrupts are not the same and there is a lot of soft
>> interrupts that occur with emulation.shutting down is an issue.you have
>> no shut down feature.this was incorporated with 98 or better or Linux
>> for
>> some time now.i have not had to hard power down a system for years.what
>> about power management work? cant do that without hardware that has it,
>> IE even a 486 box to test.
>> im no expert, but i find that you are far away from alpha.
>>
>> you are close.you got the core of beR5 up and open sourced it.its a good
>> step.i would envy that OS on my ibook right now, kde has issues and
>> gnome
>> is incredibly slow.one step at a time.
>>
>> theres a lot more work to do.seems the tracker is running like explorer
>> does in that it is THE running OS and if for some reason it crashes your
>> system goes to shit.there is a lot more stability to be tweaked.i would
>> imagine that is your first goal, get it as stable and complete as
>> possible, then branch off with newer apps.problem is the sources like
>> for
>> o-office you have to bend someone's arm to get.i have the link
>> somewhere,
>> their page doesn't work right.even a basic scribus or abiword would be
>> beneficial at this point.i agree, the seven different media players and
>> such gets old on ANY Linux distro. stick with vlc and mplayer, they seem
>> to cover the spectrum pretty well.terminal is covered, but lets get some
>> basic apps in there for basic tasks to make the OS a bit more usable by
>> ANYONE.even pico at this point would be beneficial.[audacious replaces
>> xmms gui in case you didn't already know....]
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> Your advice is surely reasonable, but if we follow it all, I am sure we
> won't release alpha 1 within the next 4 years. Releasing what we have now
> (as "alpha", mind you), is sure to disappoint a few people. It will
> hopefully also attract some new blood. People who get curious and want to
> help and see the work. It puts us in the news, it shows we are alive and
> it
> gives us at least some attention. I am sure some news coverage will be
> negative, but there will be other news that will point out it's an *alpha*
> FCS and that it is good we finally released something. Release gives more
> exposure. It has been said before that the focus of this alpha release is
> to be usable as platform to actually develop Haiku itself or applications.
> So it needs to be stable enough, not corrupt your data and provide the
> tools you need for development. A lot of the stuff you mentioned loses
> importance with this primary goal in mind. So I guess if we want to
> release
> in less than 4 years, we may have to ballance your view, which is
> reasonable on the one hand, with what I just pointed out. Hope you
> understand.
What about calling it DR1? (I know it has been on the list before)
At leaset we should state that the intendent target for this release are
developers?

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> Best regards,
> -Stephan
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