Did some more testing with Michael's GCC4 no optimizations r25000 build and the firewire definitely makes it less stable. Several times on its own it would KDL or freeze up within 8 to 12 minutes or in the same time frame would KDL when I try to access a menu. Without either the card or the driver this wasn't a problem. Please note, there are several compiler warnings under gcc2.95.3 with the firewire driver. I'm curious what gcc4 generates for comparison, but I would need to set up for that. Should I file a ticket just for the gcc2.95.3 warnings? Curtis