[haiku-development] Re: Ctrl+Alt window management functionality
- From: Matt Madia <mattmadia@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:35:03 -0500
On Jan 20, 2013 12:40 AM, "John Scipione" <jscipione@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Ingo Weinhold <ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx>
wrote:
> > Humdinger <humdingerb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>I'd also like to suggest considering to keep the current resize zones
> >>and the right-click-resizing as it's now. This will always be a
> >>"hidden" feature, because people don't usually stumble upon holding
> >>CMD+CTRL while watching the mouse pointer. Given this, they have to
> >>read about it somewhere. It's just easy for them to remember that
> >>left=moving, right=resizing.
> >>Being able to move a window by grabbing it anywhere without having to
> >>aim outside resize zones feels to me like a big advantage, esp. if the
> >>window is partially hidden.
> >
> > Agreed. The current behavior makes moving the interesting area of a
partially hidden window into view wonderfully convenient. With the proposed
change you would potentially have to click the window to the front first,
then move it (with additional care, since you no longer see what is hidden)
and click it to the back again (or worse: other windows to the front).
> >
> > It would generally make the move operation less efficient, as Humdinger
points out. Having to pause a moment to look first that the right operation
is going to happen is one thing I don't like that much about the current
resize implementation either. But I didn't like the possible alternatives
(like resizing the border in whose direction the mouse is moved initially)
any better.
>
> I understand that you (Ingo and Humdinger) are partial to the current
> behavior so here is my new idea. What if I were to make the window
> borders perform a resize instead of a pan with no keys held? I'd
> replace the mouse cursor with a double-headed arrows indicating the
> direction of the resize when you hover over the border and the LMB
> would activate the resize.
>
> That's how Windows and Mac OS X both work so it's not really a big leap.
I too am partial to the current behavior. (I simply did not have anything
productive to add beside a "me too"). Repurposing the window border for
resizing would be a loss of functionality with little gain.
The CTRL+ALT functionality has always seemed to be designed as a more of an
advanced use case than something intuitive for beginners. IMO, this is
fine, as it is alternative (and more convenient) method of window
management. Beginners will still have the more intuitive (by being a more
traditional means) titlebar and resize corner.
Once a user gets past the learning curve of the CTRL ALT functionality, the
ease of use for window management is simply wonderful.
But yes, the current color of the resize border is less than attractive.
--mmadia
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