On 2010-11-03 at 18:49:55 [+0100], Ithamar R. Adema <ithamar.adema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 17:54 +0100, Humdinger wrote: > > But without an official ban, we IMO don't have a basis for what was > > done so far, i.e. NOPOSTing someone. > > Well, seeing that this has been done already, and the general consensus > in doing it, I find it a bit unfair to now ask for an official ban, as, > looking at the action, effectively it was already there. > > The question should have been raised / statement should have been made > before any NOPOSTing happened, asking it now is just hypocrisy IMHO. OK, what happened: Half a year ago a discussion about permanently banning Jorge was held. Jorge preempted this discussion by officially resigning from the community, explicitly allowing us to ban him from our mailing lists and website. The vote that was supposed to follow the discussion was therefore never held. IMO, now the situation is rather simple: Either we consider the outcome of the past events equivalent to a ban or we don't. Matt and I do, which is why Jorge's new mail addresses are flagged NOPOST. If any of the people with voting permission disagree with either this assessment of the situation or with that Jorge should be banned at all, they should speak up now and start a voting thread. As the outcome of the thread Jorge will either be unbanned (and the NOPOST flags be cleared) or the permanent ban will be confirmed. So, speak now or forever hold your peace. CU, Ingo