[openbeos-cdt] Re: .pkg package uninstaller GUI

  • From: "DarkWyrm" <darkwyrm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:48:45 -0400 EDT

> I'm not sure about the placement and defaultness of the uninstall 
> button. Default buttons are usually placed at the bottom-right. (If 
> defaultness is intended, it should IMO be coupled with a dialog 
> asking 
> if the action is what the user intended, so as to not accidentally 
> remove an application while browsing the list.)
I agree with you on this one, but I completely disagree with the 
solution, "Are you sure?" dialogs are bad because of how adept people 
are making habits. The "Are you sure you want to move this to the 
Recycle Bin?" confirmation from Windows 98 is a great example of this. 
After a while, people just naturally click Yes without thinking about 
it, which is exactly what we don't want. Simply removing the default 
status from the button is much less work and makes it harder to make a 

> I prefer simple terms such as add/remove over install/uninstall, but 
> it 
> would only add confusion to change the names of the buttons (actions) 
> when the applications are still called Package installer/uninstaller. 
Me, too. For Uninstall, maybe a better label would be "Go."

> I think it would be nicer to have a single preference application 
> called simply "Packages" (or "Software Packages"), handling both 
> tasks, 
> than to have two separate applications. I think a prefs app makes 
> more 
> sense in presenting packages as part of the whole. (Presenting the 
> state of the system, allowing to change that state by adding/
> removing.) 
> In such a prefs app, the terms add/remove should work well. 
In that sense, yes, but this is one instance where we need to lower the 
bar as far as possible. Regular people don't want to manage packages. 
They want to run programs to do work. That is why most (but not all) 
packages in R2 will be very much like OS X's .dmg files, but double-
clicking will execute the program and installing an app is pretty much 
just a matter of copying (or downloading) a file.

> (For the record, I hope we never have to use the word "manager", e.g. 
> "package manager", in a Haiku-provided application.)
Me, too.

> Could you make a PNG or JPEG? This SVG doesn't display with any of 
> the 
> apps I have in BeOS. Wonderbrush shows only outlines.
IIRC, Wonderbrush uses Michael Lotz' SVG library, which is a work in 
progress. I know that I get the same thing with the SVG translator. 
Firefox under XP renders it just fine, so I think this is probably a 
bug or unimplemented feature.


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