Why didn't you bring this up over IRC *before* Stuart was going to submit names? There were three sessions, and lots of time to post on the mailing list. Kristof Polleunis aka BeAdingo <kristof_polleunis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Boris, that .com suggestion was my idea ;-) I agree with Boris we are obviously not marketeers and that's why we forget to consider things, sometimes important stuff when choosing a name. I believe we should get in touch with the people who want to distribute the OS, like BeUnited (isn't Helmar a marketeer) to discuss these things. I believe there are many criteria to consider before even submitting a name to Michael. These are just a few I can come up with and I'm not an expert in this field. - it has to be a non-existing OS-name. - it should more or less represent the OS or the community, it's a plus to the name this way. - it should not be an existing trademarked name (also applies to logo). - it should be trademark-able(also applies to logo). - it should be possible to obtain a toplevel domainname like *.org,*.com,*.net - it should not have an insulting meaning in other cultures. - it should not be too long, too complicated or consist of multiple words. - not too geeky either (my personal view ;-). The name has to pass criteria tests like these. What's the point in having a flashy name if we can't have the domainname or the trademark or if it's a infringment on a trademark. It's not just a matter of picking names at random. Everyone who suggests a name should first check if the names passes these criteria before even mentioning it. See what happend with BlueOS they had to change their name because BlueOS already existed. I think we better avoid things like this. Kristof Polleunis aka BeAdingo --- Boris Kuncer wrote: > > I think that we need help and advice of the > marketing expert. We are > here mostly because of a design and visual stuff. I > think that choosing > and suggesting names is not where I'm good in. I can > tell you if I like > any name suggestion or if I do not like it. This is > only a vote. Process > of choosing a name or anything else in the beginning > of our job is more > complicated of simple 'I like it - I do not like > it'. We got here a > "product" to "sell". For example: when Mercedes have > new car, all > aspects of the industry is working in one > direction(designers, technical > department, advertising teams...), very good and > strong marketing > direction in purpose to sell the product. If you > want to sell your > product you have to first analyse market. You have > to know what are > obligations and limitations before you came out on > the market. One > limitations can be legal and other practical (like > some one said that we > got to have free .com or .org). We can not make > mistakes like that. > Personally I do not know answers to all this things. > This why we need > help of someone who is professional advertising > expert. > > -boris > > > > > >I think everything has toned down a bit because the > work has > >become work instead of some sort of free-for-all > art contest. > >Until a name can be chosen for the OS there is > little reason > >to work on any of the other design projects as they > all depend > >on the name. Even then, once a name is chosen, an > identity > >will follow before the icons, wallpaper and GUI > elements can > >be tackled. > > > >To be honest, I've been a little disappointed in > the turnout > >in the discussions concerning the name. Out of a > forty some > >odd group, roughly a quarter of the people > participated in any > >meaningful way (including submissions to the > freelists mailing > >list). However, this being a volunteer project, > you take what > >you can get. > > > >I'm going to pass a list along to Michael with my > >recommendations for a name and see what his > comments are. > >Hopefully by week's end I will know where this > group stands in > >relation to the work that needs to be done and > those who still > >wish to participate in this group will be given the > > >opportunity to contribute. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > >Behalf Of Kristof > >Polleunis aka BeAdingo > >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:31 AM > >To: Stuart McCoy > >Cc: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [openbeos-cdt] What's going on here? > > > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >What's going on. This was a vibrant group, lots of > >ideas where being discussed things started to get > >moving and now I can't help getting the impression > >that everbody gives up on CDT. > > > >Are the discussions being held elsewhere? > Freelists > >is down, the forum is down and no info is coming > in. > >To get the group back on tracks and get things > moving > >was why we had a change of teamlead or am I wrong? > >Why do I still have the impression that nothing > seems > >to happen and the internal communication has become > >worse? I'm not here to criticize anyone but I must > >see I'm worried and start to have my doubts about > the > >CDT. > > > >regards, > > > >Kristof Polleunis > > > >(BeAdingo) > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and > more > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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