[openbeos-cdt] Re: We're almost there

  • From: "Stuart McCoy" <stubear@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:53:40 -0400

Let me clarify this a bit.  I want to see real world work, not what you have
done, or could do, for this group.  OBOS and OpenBeOS are dead as far as
names go.  Any work using this name isn't very helpful to my task of
assigning work.

Also, I want a few things:
- send all your replies to me, not to the entire openbeos-cdt mailing list.
My e-mail address is stubear@xxxxxxxxxx  If you have already sent an e-mail
to the list, send it to my address again.

- I want to know ALL the groups you are interested in being a part of

- Somewhat related to the previous requirement, I want to see work you have
done so I know if you are capable of working within the groups you want to
work in.  As the kernel team doesn't really need an interface kit developer
helping out as the two areas, while still programming, aren't alike in
skills required to work on each, designing a logo and designing wallpaper
are not alike either.  While most logo designers could likely design
wallpaper, most wallpaper designers aren't as inclined to be good logo
designers.  Same goes for icons.  It takes a particular skill to be able to
work within the confines of 32x32 and 16x16 pixels.

Most of this work will be displayed in the forums so you will still have
opportunity to comment and contribute in some way.  I'm just trying to
ensure that the logo designers are competent logo designers and the icon
designers are competent icon designers.

Stuart McCoy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jiin Yaroon
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 1:12 PM
> To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: We're almost there
> Hello Stuart and the CDT Folks,
> well, i changed my Computer System from PC now to an older Apple PowerMac
> and had to search for the right programs for it. Now i'm ready, 'cause i
> have Adobe Photoshop Elements for graphics. For the next days i
> will see to
> have a Page open with my logo suggestions.
> So have a nice weekend &
> greetings from germany
> Sandro
> >
> > I posted this on the forum but received only two replies.  Therefore I'm
> > hoping this mailing list will catch a few more people still
> interested on
> > working in this group.  The only difference between the forum
> post and this
> > one is the date I want replies by.
> >
> > Stuart McCoy
> > mailto:stubear@xxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.meltingcrayons.com/stubear
> >
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > Before I get to the announcement I want to establish a few things before
> > this group moves forward. I realize that there a lot of people
> who want to
> > help work on this project. I also realize that many of you have
> little or no
> > experience on design projects. As much as I'd like to let everyone get
> > involved, I need to ensure the integrity of this project
> remains intact by
> > setting some guidelines and expectations.
> >
> > For icons, logos and sound teams I want to ensure that the
> people working in
> > these teams know what they are doing. Icon design is a very
> precise art and
> > to maintain a consistent look and feel with applications, the
> GUI and each
> > other require a fair amount of skill. I plan to invite some
> icon creators to
> > submit some work for consideration once we have a name.
> Guidelines will be
> > set per project (i.e. icons will be 16x16, 32x32 and have 256 color and
> > 32-bit color versions of each size.) Once you find out what
> group you will
> > be working in you will get a list of guidelines and more specific
> > expectations for the final pieces.
> >
> > I'm fairly critical of sound design because of my background in audio
> > engineering (I have a BS in Recording Industry Management:
> Production and
> > Technology). I think Claudius has made some headway in this area but I'd
> > like to see this kicked up a few notches. The space sounds were
> a start in
> > the right direction.
> >
> > Logos are my passion. As a graphic designer (MFA in Graphic
> Design) I tend
> > to enjoy working on these projects the most because I like the
> challenge of
> > creating visual puns. This is one of the most important design
> elements this
> > group will create because it will establish the OS brand with
> the community
> > and eventually, hopefully, a larger audience outside the
> immediate BeOS user
> > community. I'm sure web sites like OS News and Slashdot will be overly
> > critical of whatever we do so the less of a reason to be this way, the
> > better.
> >
> > That being said, I want to make sure that everyone is working
> on projects
> > they are capable of working on. The programming teams don't want
> > inexperienced hackers working on the Kernel. I don't want inexperienced
> > people designing icons and logos. You are more than welcome to
> comment and I
> > find some comments from non-designers to be quite helpful. They
> often see
> > things in a completely different way.
> >
> > I can't promise anything but I know there is a discussion about how much
> > user customization will be allowed and to what extent this will
> affect the
> > UI. I'm personally hoping for something akin to the MacOS 9 Appearance
> > engine and icon customization. What this means is you will have
> more than
> > enough of an opportunity to show your work off to the community through
> > sites like DeviantArt or those of your own making. Keep in mind
> that this
> > will be the default appearance that we are designing. What the user sees
> > when they boot up the OS should be as professional looking as
> possible. I
> > don't think we need to go down the path of KDE and Gnome.
> >
> > I would like everyone still interested in working on this
> project to send me
> > an e-mail, mailto:stubear@xxxxxxxxx, with a website showing off
> your work
> > and a list of groups you would prefer to work in. Please do this by the
> > middle of this coming week, Wednesday or Thursday at the
> latest. After that
> > consideration for this particular project will only depend on
> the replies
> > and how much I think I can complete myself.  If you don't have a website
> > with work to show it will be difficult for me to determine what your
> > abilities are and how to best put your efforts to good use. I'm
> not going to
> > promise anything concerning group assignments but I will try to
> accommodate
> > everyone based on your abilities and what's needed. If you are
> interested in
> > working on the project identity system then I will let you know
> if you are a
> > part of the group and you will be given a project to work on
> immediately,
> > the details of which I'll send along with the e-mail. For the rest, it's
> > concerning the new OS name but that's all I'm going to say for now.
> >
> >
> --
> X-GFX - Graphics, Wallpapers, Photos, Fractals & more... >
> http://www.x-gfx.org

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