[openbeos-cdt] Re: Names
- From: Kristof Polleunis aka BeAdingo <kristof_polleunis@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
I was thinking of Be# (BeSharp), but the domainname is
taken
--- Kristof Polleunis aka BeAdingo
<kristof_polleunis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> - Well I simply can't be on the sessions coz they
> are
> too late! Hey, I live in Europe and I have a life,
> girlfriend, kid, work, I'm not a student who can
> stay
> up until 3am to join you guys on IRC.
>
> -That's why I didn't like IRC in the first place.
> Timezones make it difficult to set a perfect time
> for
> everyone. I guess that also explains why almost
> nobody of the group showed up.
>
> -Using IRC is cool but people live in different
> timezones and have sometimes other obligations:
> sports, hobbies, friends and family...etc
>
> -I also wonder if everyone subscribed to the
> mailinglist. Maybe all members should be urged to
> subscribe
>
> - I did post these things several times on the
> mailinglists but almost nobody gave feedback on it.
> I
> also suggested setting up a list with things to
> avoid
> and things to consider when choosing names. Result
> no
> reaction.
>
> BTW: I'd like to see some more professionalism
>
> regards,
>
> Kristof (BeAdingo)
>
>
>
> --- Nathan Callender <nathan_callender@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Why didn't you bring this up over IRC *before*
> > Stuart was going to submit names? There were
> three
> > sessions, and lots of time to post on the mailing
> > list.
> > Kristof Polleunis aka BeAdingo
> > <kristof_polleunis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Boris, that .com suggestion was my idea ;-)
> >
> > I agree with Boris we are obviously not marketeers
> > and
> > that's why we forget to consider things, sometimes
> > important stuff when choosing a name. I believe we
> > should get in touch with the people who want to
> > distribute the OS, like BeUnited (isn't Helmar a
> > marketeer) to discuss these things.
> >
> > I believe there are many criteria to consider
> before
> > even submitting a name to Michael. These are just
> a
> > few I can come up with and I'm not an expert in
> this
> > field.
> >
> > - it has to be a non-existing OS-name.
> >
> > - it should more or less represent the OS or the
> > community, it's a plus to the name this way.
> >
> > - it should not be an existing trademarked name
> > (also
> > applies to logo).
> >
> > - it should be trademark-able(also applies to
> logo).
> >
> > - it should be possible to obtain a toplevel
> > domainname like *.org,*.com,*.net
> >
> > - it should not have an insulting meaning in other
> > cultures.
> >
> > - it should not be too long, too complicated or
> > consist of multiple words.
> >
> > - not too geeky either (my personal view ;-).
> >
> > The name has to pass criteria tests like these.
> > What's the point in having a flashy name if we
> can't
> > have the domainname or the trademark or if it's a
> > infringment on a trademark. It's not just a matter
> > of
> > picking names at random.
> >
> > Everyone who suggests a name should first check if
> > the
> > names passes these criteria before even mentioning
> > it.
> > See what happend with BlueOS they had to change
> > their
> > name because BlueOS already existed. I think we
> > better avoid things like this.
> >
> > Kristof Polleunis
> >
> > aka
> >
> > BeAdingo
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Boris Kuncer wrote:
> > >
> > > I think that we need help and advice of the
> > > marketing expert. We are
> > > here mostly because of a design and visual
> stuff.
> > I
> > > think that choosing
> > > and suggesting names is not where I'm good in. I
> > can
> > > tell you if I like
> > > any name suggestion or if I do not like it. This
> > is
> > > only a vote. Process
> > > of choosing a name or anything else in the
> > beginning
> > > of our job is more
> > > complicated of simple 'I like it - I do not like
> > > it'. We got here a
> > > "product" to "sell". For example: when Mercedes
> > have
> > > new car, all
> > > aspects of the industry is working in one
> > > direction(designers, technical
> > > department, advertising teams...), very good and
> > > strong marketing
> > > direction in purpose to sell the product. If you
> > > want to sell your
> > > product you have to first analyse market. You
> have
> > > to know what are
> > > obligations and limitations before you came out
> on
> > > the market. One
> > > limitations can be legal and other practical
> (like
> > > some one said that we
> > > got to have free .com or .org). We can not make
> > > mistakes like that.
> > > Personally I do not know answers to all this
> > things.
> > > This why we need
> > > help of someone who is professional advertising
> > > expert.
> > >
> > > -boris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I think everything has toned down a bit because
> > the
> > > work has
> > > >become work instead of some sort of
> free-for-all
> > > art contest.
> > > >Until a name can be chosen for the OS there is
> > > little reason
> > > >to work on any of the other design projects as
> > they
> > > all depend
> > > >on the name. Even then, once a name is chosen,
> an
> > > identity
> > > >will follow before the icons, wallpaper and GUI
> > > elements can
> > > >be tackled.
> > > >
> > > >To be honest, I've been a little disappointed
> in
> > > the turnout
> > > >in the discussions concerning the name. Out of
> a
> > > forty some
> > > >odd group, roughly a quarter of the people
> > > participated in any
> > > >meaningful way (including submissions to the
> > > freelists mailing
> > > >list). However, this being a volunteer project,
> > > you take what
> > > >you can get.
> > > >
> > > >I'm going to pass a list along to Michael with
> my
> >
> > > >recommendations for a name and see what his
> > > comments are.
> > > >Hopefully by week's end I will know where this
> > > group stands in
> > > >relation to the work that needs to be done and
> > > those who still
> > > >wish to participate in this group will be given
> > the
> > >
> > > >opportunity to contribute.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > >Behalf Of Kristof
> > > >Polleunis aka BeAdingo
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:31 AM
> > > >To: Stuart McCoy
> > > >Cc: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [openbeos-cdt] What's going on here?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > >What's going on. This was a vibrant group, lots
> > of
> > > >ideas where being discussed things started to
> get
> > > >moving and now I can't help getting the
> > impression
> > > >that everbody gives up on CDT.
> > > >
> > > >Are the discussions being held elsewhere?
> > > Freelists
> > > >is down, the forum is down and no info is
> coming
> > > in.
> > > >To get the group back on tracks and get things
> > > moving
> > > >was why we had a change of teamlead or am I
> > wrong?
> > > >Why do I still have the impression that nothing
> > > seems
> > > >to happen and the internal communication has
> > become
> > > >worse? I'm not here to criticize anyone but I
> > must
> > > >see I'm worried and start to have my doubts
> about
> > > the
> > > >CDT.
> > > >
> > > >regards,
> > > >
> > > >Kristof Polleunis
> > > >
> > > >(BeAdingo)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > nathan_callender@xxxxxxxxx
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