I do not think I can make it for the IRC discussion so here is another idea for an approach to naming. What about "dances", espescially "latin" ones like Salsa, Merengue (sorry about the spelling!), Bossa Nova and Tango? They are evocative of passion and grace and are widely recognised words. Or, perhaps more relevant to the "nature" of the system something like "Sage", "Adept", "Artisan", "Virtuoso", "Mentor" or "Maestro". Perhaps none of these would do, but you get the idea. I was just browsing in the thesaurus! Or there is Spanish which has contributed many mellifluous words to modern English like sierra, pinto and fiesta(all used for Ford cars), canyon, dollar, amigo (frequently used in slang), and many others. Perhaps a Spanish speaker could come up with something appropriate. ===== regards Rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com