[haiku-bugs] Re: [Haiku] #7967: Update menu modifier images to more accurately reflect the corresponding key that appears on the keyboard

  • From: "jscipione" <trac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:57:02 -0000

#7967: Update menu modifier images to more accurately reflect the corresponding
key that appears on the keyboard
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   Reporter:  jscipione       |      Owner:  stippi
       Type:  enhancement     |     Status:  new
   Priority:  normal          |  Milestone:  R1
  Component:  User Interface  |    Version:  R1/Development
 Resolution:                  |   Keywords:
 Blocked By:                  |   Blocking:
Has a Patch:  0               |   Platform:  All
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Comment (by jscipione):

 Replying to [comment:25 bonefish]:
 > I really can't say what Apple has done to its keyboards. [snip] If I
 misunderstood it and as you say they basically swapped Option and Command,
 then this demonstrates even more that what you're trying to do is simply
 not going to work, since 1. it would already be broken for old Mac
 keyboards and 2. keyboard manufacturers (at least Apple) apparently can
 change keys on a whim, which doesn't bode well for the future.

 The swapped keys happened when Apple switched to USB. It was an issue on
 BeOS Intel with a USB Mac keyboard as well (No idea about PPC). So that
 comment is invalid. The keys don't change willy-nilly.

 Ignore Mac keyboards for now. Are you willing to deal with the confusion
 that will result when you change the menu bitmaps for people using PC
 keyboards?

 > > I find all that terribly confusing though and I think that the input
 server could take care of all of it for you without you having to do
 anything.
 >
 > It could only do that, if it knew how the keys are labeled on the exact
 model of the keyboard. Not even considering legends localization and other
 customization.

 The bitmap doesn't have to match exactly, just be recognizable as the key
 to press, be it alt, windows, ctrl, option, or command.

 You have to understand, I am advocating the change not for you and me --
 we already get it. I am advocating the change for people brand new to
 Haiku who won't understand what key roles are or what the Keymap preflet
 does, only what is in the menu and on their keyboard. "Read the User
 Guide" is a cop-out, we need an intuitive solution, even an imperfect one.

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