Hi Beth, Well, I cannot answer your question about loudness of box computers, but guess what? You can find box computers brand new from 2 sources. The one is called the Freedom Box surfboard, and you learn more about it and the Freedom box at http://www.freedombox.info There's also a box computer including builtin keyboard and you can learn more about it and read their online catalogue at the following place http://www.irti.net Now I don't work for either of those companies but I reccommend either of those computers. You take care and thanks for posting your great question. Harry in Michigan -------- Original Message -------- From: "beth" Apparently from: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Subject: [guispeak] Box computer Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 22:10:31 -0500 Hi, all. Strange subject line but I don't know what else to call these for now. I need advice on computers which are very small boxes with connectors into which you can plug in a keyboard, mouse, monitor ... whatever you want. They only run on electricity, I think. I had one a long time ago and it sounded like a hair dryer ... yuck ... too loud. Are they all that loud? Thanks. Beth ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:guispeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** guispeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:guispeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** guispeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq