Hi phyllis oh that was nice of your victoria to take you for a pint in pub ah bless her you have been getting out quite a lot lately bless your girls Phyllis if our sarah can look up the sense information and see if it just incudes blinds as well as deafblind then perhaps it worth you looking in to it what do you think? its hot over here too sweating cobs here hahahahahaha take care Love Carol x.x.x.x.