hi malcom ,sometimes i get up and make myself a bru .but i try and go back and stay in bed .i just lie there and listen to the radio .i have the talking channels not the singing ones . .luckly i have my 13 year old daughter with me and she gets up at 7 so at least i do have someone in the morning to talk to .the trouble is i find it hard to be awayke in the evening when she is at home . i suppose we do not have to have the same sleeping paterrn as sighted or working people if we have a choice .i just go with what my body tells me now and i think it takes away some frustration . i suppose you could have a go at saying to yourself just because everyone else is asleep it doesnt mean i have to be ,and see if it takes out some of the frustration . donna